Mary Ann Harper's parents, William & Ann, cont. (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, February 18, 2017, 16:55 (2622 days ago) @ Jefff

OR IS THIS OUR WILLIAM ??

1871; Ruardean, Ruardean, Herefordshire, England
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Richard Harper Head M 60 Butcher. Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Mary Harper Wife F 55 Shirehampton, Gloucestershire
William Henry Harper Grandson M 7 Ruardean, Gloucestershire

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Record_ID: 274882
Entry_Number: 161
Year: 1941
Month: Apr
Day: 12
Surname: HARPER
Forenames: William Henry
Residence: Newham Bottom Woodside
Age_at_death: 77 yrs
Officiating_Minister: J F Hilder Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/33
Page_No: 21
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: H616

Aged 77, so born abt 1864, good fit wrt the 1871 Census above, and our area.

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Searching this site's PRs gives this likely marriage for William & Ann, the ages etc fit nicely;

Record_ID: 20906
Entry_Number: 15
Year: 1884
Month: Oct
Day: 7
Grooms_Surname: HARPER
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Coal miner
Grooms_Residence: Ruardean Woodside
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Harper
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Mary
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: BENT
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Ruardean Woodside
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Bent
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Timothy
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Coal miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Aaron Baldwin
Witness_2: Emily Bent
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex_Groom: H616
Soundex_Bride: B530

NB: I also searched for ALL UK marriages twixt "Wm Harper" & "Ann"'s using FreeBMD, the only local records was this;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
BENT Anne Westbury S. 6a 479
HARPER William Westbury S. 6a 479

so confirms the above marriage PR is ours.

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NB: Earlier I mentioned an excellent book abt the people & history of Ruardean Hill called "The Highest Point of Dean", I've been reading it while writing these posts. It was written in 1985 by a very active local historian and son of Ruardean Hill, Maurice Bent. The book states his father was Timothy Bent, searching this name in FreeBMD shows he married Maurice's mother in 1933. There is another local record for a Death of Timothy Bent aged 60 in 1902; at a guess I suspect this may be Maurice's Grandfather and the father of Bride Ann in the above Marriage ?.

This site's PRs confirm;

Record_ID: 42759
Entry_Number: 6449
Year: 1902
Month: Apr
Day: 13
Surname: BENT
Forenames: Timothy
Residence: Ruardean Woodside
Age_at_death: 60 years
Officiating_Minister: Edw[ard] Parnell Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/14
Page_No: 8
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: B530

Record_ID: 156879
Entry_Number: 519
Year: 1841
Month: May
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: BENT
Child_Forenames: Timothy
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Weston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: William Nevins Off[iciating] Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: AA33/5
Page_Number: 65
Parish_Chapel: Weston under Penyard
Soundex: B530

(So very near to Ryford, Ann's possible birthplace).

No Marriage record for him in the PRs, but FreeBMD suggests he married one of the following two ladies;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
Bent Timothy Ross 6a 921
Green Charlotte Ross 6a 921
Meadman Alice Ross 6a 921
Meadmore Alice Ross 6a 921

Unfortunately this doesn't fit the following Baptism which I suspected was our Ann's !

???

Record_ID: 157299
Entry_Number: 138
Year: 1865
Month: May
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: BENT
Child_Forenames: Anne
Fathers_Forenames: Timothy
Mothers_Forenames: Marianne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Weston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: E B Hawkeshaw
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AA33/6
Page_Number: 18
Parish_Chapel: Weston under Penyard
Soundex: B530

So more work needed, will be edited...