John Belcher married Hannah Lyar/Syer 1758, Westbury o S. (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 19:29 (2276 days ago) @ Jefff

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Sarah b1781; ????

Not at all sure, as like John and Richard etc Sarah is a popular BELCHER name in the Severnside areas, but wonder if this COULD be her marriage ? Hempstead is just south of Gloucester down river towards Elmore, and lies right on the Severn.

Name John Ravenhill
Spouse's Name Sarah Belcher
Event Date 11 Jan 1804
Event Place Hempstead,Gloucester,England

Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVKV-RJJ : 10 December 2014),

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Searching Familysearch for the Marriages you gave, I find this one which is a good fit.


Name John Bellsher
Spouse's Name Hannah Lyar
Event Date 25 Jun 1758
Event Place Arlingham,Gloucester,England

Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLS7-9YS : 10 December 2014)


LUCKILY the FoD PR database only has nine spelt "Belsher/Bellsher", and none appear relevant to this family.
The bride's name may be Siar etc, I only have the Familysearch transcript to go by, and I gather they can be inaccurate at times.

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Still on Familysearch I can also find marriage which closely matches the second one you mentioned. Winchcombe is the opposite end of the county from the Forest, the other side of Gloster and Cheltenham up in the Cotswold hills, renowned in the past for the wool trade but not too many obvious links to the Forest of Dean.
Possibly not your ancestors ?

Name John Belcher
Spouse's Name Susanna Trinton
Event Date 18 Jun 1785
Event Place Winchcomb,Gloucester,England


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Back to John Belcher who married Hannah in W-o-S in 1758, there are quite a few Burials of "John Belcher" in W-o-S but could this be your man, the age seems a reasonable fit, suggesting a birthdate abt 1730.

Record_ID: 383841
Entry_Number: 1613
Year: 1809
Month: Jan
Day: 29
Surname: BELCHER
Forenames: John
Residence:
Age_at_death: Aged 79
Officiating_Minister: Richard Wetherell Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/3
Page_No: 148
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: B426

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Searching for John's wife Hannah/Anna etc, cannot find her Burial for definite, but did find what seems another of their children;

Record_ID: 552636
Entry_Number: 640
Year: 1769
Month: Jun
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: BOLCHER
Child_Forenames: Hannah
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John Ridley Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Dau of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: B426

Hence

Record_ID: 206911
Entry_Number: 59
Year: 1786
Month: Dec
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: MARTIN
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: otp [Westbury]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: BELCHER
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: otp [Westbury]
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He Signs She Marks
Witness_1: Tobias Cowles
Witness_2: John Belcher
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George Wallett Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex_Groom: M635
Soundex_Bride: B426

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Wonder who this is and where she fits ?.

Record_ID: 383299
Entry_Number: 1053
Year: 1789
Month: Apl
Day: 5
Surname: BELCHER
Forenames: Hannah
Residence:
Age_at_death:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: Wife of Jonathan
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/3
Page_No: 131
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: B426

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Re-searching this forum for prior posts about the above BELCHERs I find descendants to Benjamin b1771 who went to New Zealand, which I guess you probably know of seeing as you're in Australia ?
See http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=22863

A timely reminder to me that it ALWAYS pays to keep searching and researching this forum for prior posts about every family name, place, occupation and so on...; SO much excellent information has already been discussed in the past.

That prior post seems to suggest that my earlier mention of Arlingham, across the Severn from Westbury, may have been correct. These sites may help further in this respect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlingham
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/resources/kelly-s-directory-1879/35-arli...
Arlingham Ferry http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=3581


Hows that for now Janet, we look forward to your thoughts.
Jeff.


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