John Roberts born Newland area abt 1799 (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 20:27 (115 days ago) @ Jefff

Ideally needs more evidence, but from my QUICK look at the available PRs, this MIGHT be the parents' marriage;

Record_ID: 183410
Entry_Number: 52
Year: 1823
Month: Jun
Day: 20
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St. Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: FROWEN
Brides_Forenames: Susan
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St. Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Jones
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Roberts
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Barnes Bourne Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P310 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 18
Parish_Chapel: Staunton
Soundex_Groom: R163
Soundex_Bride: F650

??

Could witness Elizabeth Roberts be John's mother or sister ?

The PRs contain 10 baptisms for "John Roberts born abt 1799".... this is easliy the best fit;

Record_ID: 99464
Entry_Number:
Year: 1798
Month: Sep
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: E [illegible]
Notes: Memo could be [ministers] signature. Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: R163

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This seems a good fit for our Susannah Frowen ?

Record_ID: 392963
Entry_Number:
Year: 1803
Month: Jan
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: FROWEN
Child_Forenames: Susannah
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: F650


Record_ID: 149090
Entry_Number: 431
Year: 1792
Month: Jul
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: FROWEN
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: DOWARD
Brides_Forenames: Anne
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Edw[ar]d Mousil
Witness_2: Thos Bond
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: P Ball vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 685
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: F650
Soundex_Bride: D630

This site's PRs contain several Baptisms which probably relate to this couple, but I'll leave that to you Linda.

Please double-check these last few suggestions for yourself..
Hopefully you'll find the above "grandparents" are in the 1841 etc census, and hopefully living near to their children, especially your John & Susannah.

Also worth searching this forum for related prior-threads, although I think both Roberts and Frowen are fairly common names locally so will take careful sorting.

atb J


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