Gile/James Griffiths (General)
by pam Vowles 
, west sussex, Sunday, March 26, 2006, 02:21 (6610 days ago)
Please can someone help me before I lose 5 generations on my family tree.( and turn to drink)
In slowhands post of 24 Oct 2005 he shows the 1841 census showing Giles 40 Sarah 45 Mary 20 James 15 Ann 10 George 8? Henry 6 Thomas 4 and Giles 1.
In my tree working up I know my George was born 1832/3 in the Forest of Dean and had a brother Thomas brn 1837/8, they both went to the same place in Northumberland abt 1870 something.
I have rightly or wrongly linked them to Giles and Sarah of the 1841 census.
A relative in New Zealand has obtained Georges marriage cert which I know is correct because of his wifes name, on it he states father JAMES!
George named his sons Evan, Thomas and Giles.( no James)
Another brother on the 1841 census Henry moved to Northumberland.
Any advice on how to solve this would be very much appreciated.
Pam
Giles/James Griffiths
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, March 26, 2006, 03:17 (6609 days ago) @ pam Vowles
Did George's wedding take place "up north" ?
If so the Vicar/registrar may have mis heard a Vorest of Dean "Jyles" as "James" and recorded it so .
< try to imagine how a person used to Geordie who hear a Vorest accent >
regards
S
cross ref
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=604#p604
GilesJames Griffiths
by pam vowles , west sussex, Sunday, March 26, 2006, 03:24 (6609 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks for reply slowhands, no the wedding took place in Wales, we have been going around the house muttering Giles in a Welsh accent!
I really think that the evidence is pretty overwhelming that Giles was the father. I can't find the birth on parish registers but will keep looking.
Thanks
Pam
Giles/James Griffiths
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, March 26, 2006, 03:57 (6609 days ago) @ pam vowles
Then I guess it may be down to the "you hear what you expect to hear" syndrome, Giles would be a very rare christian name in Wales - approx 60 in 1851 census ( against 2,000 in the England 1851 census). Whereas James ....25,000 in Wales ( vs 700,000 in England).
Giles/James Griffiths
by pam vowles , west sussex, Sunday, March 26, 2006, 05:07 (6609 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks slowhands, very good point especially as George called his son Giles as well and not James. I'm going to ask a big favour would it be possible to have a quick look on the 1841 census and see if there is a James Griffiths with a son George born 1832/3 with a brother Thomas brn 1837/8. If there isn't I think I will safely be able to keep my 5 generations and my sanity.
Many thanks for your trouble
Pam