John Pain/Payne and Mary Morgan (General)
Hello all,
John Pain/Payne b.c.1790, Newent and Mary Morgan b.c.1796, Newent were my 4 x great grandparents. Their daughter Eliza was a schoolmistress for James Eldridge at Pauntley, where he 'wronged' her and she had a child Henry James Payne b.1852, Ruardean. Mother and child soon moved to Clun, Shropshire where she died.
I would love to know anything more about John and Mary (especially seeing in this message board that there is a Morgan Society!)and also the school.
Any help is very much appreciated, as I am stuck on this heritage and also stuck on the other side of the country!
Pauntley 1851 entry - Eliza PAYNE 1827
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, April 23, 2006, 01:48 (6589 days ago) @ Ruth
http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcots/pauntley51.html
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ELDRIDGE James 35 School Master Sussex Seolescomb ?
Charlotte 37 School Mistress Sussex Gare ?
Frances 14 Scholar West Field Sussex
Louisa 9 Scholar Pauntley
James 7 Scholar Pauntley
Emma 5 Scholar Pauntley
Henry Oswald 3 Pauntley
PAYNE Eliza Assistant 24 School Mistress Newent
Pauntley 1851 entry - Eliza PAYNE 1827
Yes - this is the right Eliza. The placenames queried are Seddlescombe and Orr. I know Eldridge went on having children, 10 with Charlotte and apparently helped financially with Henry James. Certain members of the family knew of him, some not.
Pauntley 1851 entry - Eliza PAYNE 1827
by shepway , Sunday, April 23, 2006, 06:45 (6588 days ago) @ Ruth
This is the GFHS 1851 Census transcript:
1960 0254 007 Paeford School ELDRIDGE James HD M 36 School Master SSX Sedlescomb [Sedlescombe]
1960 0254 007 Paeford School ELDRIDGE Charlotte WI M 37 School Mistress SSX Oare [Ore]
1960 0254 007 Paeford School ELDRIDGE Frances DA U 14 Scholar SSX Westfield
1960 0254 007 Paeford School ELDRIDGE Louisa DA U 7 Scholar GLS Pauntley
1960 0254 007 Paeford School ELDRIDGE James SO U 7 Scholar GLS Pauntley
1960 0254 007 Paeford School ELDRIDGE Emma DA U 5 Scholar GLS Pauntley
1960 0254 007 Paeford School ELDRIDGE Henry Oswald SO U 3 Scholar GLS Pauntley
1960 0254 007 Paeford School PAYNE Eliza AS U 20 School Mistress GLS Newent
Mike
Pauntley 1851 entry - Eliza PAYNE 1827
Thanks. Paeford School - any ideas was it private or public?
Paeford or Payford
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, April 23, 2006, 22:58 (6588 days ago) @ Ruth
Now its written as Payford (as in Payford Bridge, Payford Mill ), rather than the way its recorded in 1851 census.
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Co-ords 374435,229328
This maybe the same building, although the local Directory for 1870's suggests a new school at Pool Hill.
The Old School House, Payford, Redmarley,GLOUCESTER. UK. GL19 3HY.
Its situated near Pauntley Court - home of Dick Whittington- looks like the school was supported by the landed gent at the Court.
The Education Act 1870 being one of the key pieces of legislation in school reform, so I guess this was a private rather than state school , but not in the sense of an Eton or Harrow :-)
Pauntley 1841 entry - Eliza PAYNE 1827
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, April 23, 2006, 07:45 (6588 days ago) @ Ruth
1841: HO107/350/10
Registration district: Newent
Sub-registration district: Newent
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Folio: 16
Page: 10
John Pain abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Newent Gloucestershire
Mary Pain abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Newent Gloucestershire
Eliza Pain abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Newent Gloucestershire
Pauntley 1841 entry - Eliza PAYNE 1827
I have noticed other Pains in the area - is it a local name?
Pauntley 1841 entry - Eliza PAYNE 1827
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, April 23, 2006, 22:06 (6588 days ago) @ Ruth
Yes there is a cluster of PAIN / PAYNE etc in the Newent - > Huntley area