Thank you S. I have spoken by phone to the Quaker Library in London. The gentleman said I would not be wasting my time by visiting them (They kept and keep first class records). However, I did not read that as meaning I should go. I now live in the West Country and need something more substantial to justify the time and expense.

My family was certainly considered as 'Of the Parish'. They claimed relief through the Poor Laws as John died in 1749, although he is not in the burial register. The Parish paid for his burial and the woollen shroud. His wife Hannah died in 1780 and burial was entered. Son Michael was given money and referred to as Mick. John and Hannah I reckon were born about 1715 - 1725. No marriage found for them. I feel that any Quaker connection was earlier than 1740. I have done the searches in ever widening circles but not come up with anything. I feel that they had moved in from somewhere else. C of E participation seems to have been total until the Bible Christians came to the FoD in the 1840's. Since then NC worship has been widespread in my wider family. Marriage with NC clergy or being a clergyman also figures. My Grandfather's brother William (1862-1904) was a London City Missioner) which is C of E.

'Griffiths' in Wales is considered like looking for a needle in a haystack, but in my experience that is not so. IGI list far more in Herefordshire and Staffordshire than in any Welsh County. Given that Monmouthshire is or was an English County, none of my family lived in Wales after 1740.

Thank you for your thoughts.

Roger