Isaac BEACH burial Newland 1808 (General)

by BSEDDON @, Friday, January 13, 2012, 21:26 (4496 days ago)

Hi

the parish records show the Burial of an Isaac Beach in 1808. His residence is shown as "Workhouse". No further detail is provided

Is there any possibilty of linking this record to the birth of an Isaac Beach in 1780 to Tho[ma]s and Mary Beach. This is the only Baptism on the database for an Isaac Beach before that date

I'd be grateful for any guidance offered, thanks Brian

Isaac BEACH burial Newland 1808

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 07:32 (4492 days ago) @ BSEDDON

Hi

the parish records show the Burial of an Isaac Beach in 1808. His residence is shown as "Workhouse". No further detail is provided

Is there any possibilty of linking this record to the birth of an Isaac Beach in 1780 to Tho[ma]s and Mary Beach. This is the only Baptism on the database for an Isaac Beach before that date

I'd be grateful for any guidance offered, thanks Brian


Without other records/ evidence then almost impossible.... sorry

a headstone with an age would help
a marriage might help
etc etc

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Isaac BEACH burial Newland 1808

by BSEDDON @, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 11:17 (4491 days ago) @ slowhands

thanks for the response Slowhands...

Can I take it that the Workhouse records are currenty unavailable or do not exist? Do you happen to know where the workhouse was located?

thanks Brian

Clearwell and Coleford Workhouses

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 12:22 (4491 days ago) @ BSEDDON

Do you happen to know where the workhouse was located?

thanks Brian

Clearwell probably


In 1664 a committee of parishioners wasformed to provide employment for the poor andit made plans, possibly not implemented, foropening workhouses at Clearwell and Coleford. (fn. 46) In 1679 a serge manufacturer of Lacock (Wilts.)contracted with the parish to employ up to 60paupers in spinning and other work. (fn. 47) From themid 18th century there was a growing concernabout the burden of the poor, with enquiries toidentify residents who were without settlementin 1750 and 1755, a scheme for employing poorwomen at spinning flax in 1756, and generalmeasures for tightening poor-law administrationin 1759. Efforts were made regularly to persuadeparishioners to take apprentices: 15 childrenwere placed out in 1767 and 26 in 1787. In 1751c. 45 adults and children were on permanentweekly relief and in 1771 c. 80. (fn. 48) A workhousewas established at Coleford town in or shortlybefore 1786 under a committee of the parishofficers and leading ratepayers, (fn. 49) and a workhouse master capable of supervising hemp, flax,and wool manufacture was advertized for in1788. (fn. 50) By 1788 a salaried assistant overseer hadbeen appointed. (fn. 51)

From: 'Newland', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 195-231. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23260 Date accessed: 18 January 2012.


Coleford was subject, as a tithing, to the parish government ofNewland, which is discussed below. The Newland parish workhouse opened in the mid 1780swas in Coleford town, at the corner of St. Johnand Bank Streets. (fn. 15) In 1836 the tithing wasincluded in the Monmouth poor-law union aspart of Newland. (fn. 16)

In the early 18th century two constables policed the town and its market (fn. 17) but later only oneconstable was appointed for the whole tithing. (fn. 18) In 1786 an association for the prosecution offelons was formed to combat crime in the town.The association, which also covered Newlandand several adjoining parishes, apparently lapsedin the early 1790s and was revived in 1814. (fn. 19) Magistrates were holding sessions at the Angelinn by 1841 (fn. 20) and the county constabulary hada station in the town in 1849. (fn. 21) In the early 1860sa large house at the bottom of Lord's hill wasconverted as a police station and petty sessionalcourt. (fn. 22) In 1840 there was an old pound next tothe former Newland workhouse in the town anda pound at Whitecliff. (fn. 23) A town crier was recorded in 1863. (fn. 24)

From: 'Coleford', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 117-138. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23255 Date accessed: 18 January 2012.

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Isaac BEACH burial Newland 1808

by fredb @, Sunday, January 29, 2012, 17:48 (4480 days ago) @ BSEDDON

My surname is Beach, and I've spent about 10 years trying to link Forest and my nearby Monmouth families, but have found nothing other than -
1766 – 21st July, William Beach of Newland married Ann Benfield of Monmouth
I think it's possible that William and Ann had children in Monmouth area but I'm stuck at a marriage of Samuel Beach in 1797(my 5x greatgrandfather), and a Benjamin Beach born about 1800(my 4 x greatgrandfather), this is where it may be of interest to you, because he names a son Isaac born 1827. and names tend to have a family link at this time.
The oldest Beach families in the area I found were in the Newent and Dymock area, and some believe the surname evolved from the Norman surname(Flemmish actually) "de la Beche" In Newent you can see how between 1500 and 1600 it changes from Beche to Beache, and then Beach. There is always a point where you can do nothing else but guess. Apart from my surname I've managed to follow others back to the early 1700's, and pre 1600 in two cases. Good luck with your search Fred

Isaac BEACH burial Newland 1808

by BSEDDON @, Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 15:19 (4463 days ago) @ fredb

Hi Fred

I've only just noticed your response hence the the delay in replying.....

I have Isaac Beach 1827 as being the (possible) 6th child of

Benjamin Beach 1777 and Ann Morris who married in Whitchurch in 1805. Other possible offsping being

1806 Elizabeth
1809 Richard
1812 William
1816 Ann
1821 Mary Ann

Tentatively, I've got Isaac's ancestry as

Grandparents William Beach 1750 & Christian Morgan m 20/04/1772 Newland
GGrandparents John Beach 1723 & Eleanor Morgan m 9/11/1745 Newland
GGGrandparents William Beach 1686 & Sara Morgan m 31/12/1719 Newland
GGGGrandparents John Beach & Maria Skinne m 1686

Does any of this tie in with you?

I'm currently researching the 19th century Beaches around Bream & Ruspidge. If you have much knowledge of this area then I'd be delighted to hear from you, Brian

Fred Beach re Isaac Beach

by BSEDDON @, Friday, February 17, 2012, 16:11 (4461 days ago) @ BSEDDON

Hi Fred

I've opened a new thread as I'm not sure that my original reply was clearly visible of the forum

I have Isaac Beach 1827 as being the (possible) 6th child of
Benjamin Beach 1777 and Ann Morris who married in Whitchurch in 1805. Other possible offsping being

1806 Elizabeth
1809 Richard
1812 William
1816 Ann
1821 Mary Ann

Tentatively, I've got Isaac's ancestry as

Grandparents William Beach 1750 & Christian Morgan m 20/04/1772 Newland
GGrandparents John Beach 1723 & Eleanor Morgan m 9/11/1745 Newland
GGGrandparents William Beach 1686 & Sara Morgan m 31/12/1719 Newland
GGGGrandparents John Beach & Maria Skinne m 1686

Does any of this tie in with you?

I'm currently researching the 19th century Beaches around Bream & Ruspidge. If you have much knowledge of this area then I'd be delighted to hear from you, Brian

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