Transcripts (Parish Records)

by aussie @, Tasmania, Australia, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 13:12 (1288 days ago)

Hi, I just searched the knowledgebase but couldn't find an answer.

With the Transcripts that are on this site in Parish Records are those details exactly the same or is their likely to be more on the original image (digital/microfiche/register book)?

My question relates to the Transcript Record ID: 374193.

The event happened at Ledbury, it would be great if the original or digitised version of the Baptism included his mother's surname, but I know that's a long shot. I can't find his parents marriage at Ledbury, so this is becoming another brick wall.

TIA.
Aussie

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 17:05 (1288 days ago) @ aussie

Hi,
I'm not a member of the site's admin, but as far as I'm aware any information that appears on the original source material will have also been included on the transcript within the database, certainly something as useful as additional family names.

Unfortunately I'm unable to find the Baptism to which you refer from just the reference number 374193 (and I've tried using the Advanced search too), altho this may of course just be my ignorance as having never tried this search route before. If you could please copy & paste it onto a post, then perhaps we'll be able to help with your research.

Thanks, Jeff.

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by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 17:12 (1288 days ago) @ aussie

For everyone's convenience this is it,

Record_ID: 374193
Entry_Number:
Year: 1750
Month: Sep
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: PROBERT
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Richard Hallings Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: the son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: BO92/5
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury
Soundex: P616

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by grahamdavison @, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 17:45 (1288 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

I have checked the original register and there is no additional information present. I note there is a marriage at Hereford All Saints on 28 October 1733 between John Probert and Sarah Boswood both of Ledbury, and that there are various children born at Ledbury up to 1853 with the Surname Probert, Probins, Probyns. Hope this helps.

Transcripts, Hereford Marriage Records

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Sunday, June 05, 2016, 16:13 (1287 days ago) @ grahamdavison

I note there is a marriage at Hereford All Saints on 28 October 1733 between John Probert and Sarah Boswood both of Ledbury.

Hi Graham, please could you clarify your source of this info ?. I can see this marriage record on Ancestry & FamilySearch, but that record doesn't mention the couple are from Ledbury. I'm hoping you have access to Herefordshire PRs, which is something I've often wanted myself, hence my asking the question.

Many thanks, again, Jeff.

Transcripts, Hereford Marriage Records

by aussie @, Tasmania, Australia, Monday, June 06, 2016, 00:26 (1286 days ago) @ Jefff

Cheers Jeff, I'd be interested to know the answer too. :)

Transcripts, Hereford Marriage Records

by grahamdavison @, Monday, June 06, 2016, 09:49 (1286 days ago) @ Jefff

Sorry to disappoint you Jeff but the marriage came from the CD I bought from the Hereford Family History Society, I too would like greater access to the Herefordshire PRs!!

If you use the Advanced Search and put the Surname in as PROB with parents John and Sarah you will find a few more children, remember most people were illiterate in those days and so the Vicar wrote down what he thought he heard!!

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by aussie @, Tasmania, Australia, Monday, June 06, 2016, 13:13 (1286 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Cheers Graham. :)

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Monday, June 06, 2016, 22:50 (1285 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Thanks Graham, I was worried I was missing something obvious so "happy" to find otherwise. In fact it's not a disappointment at all, participating in this great forum is always an absolute pleasure and often a welcome distraction from real-world problems and even disappointments elsewhere.

Yes agree entirely re the spellings, that's a trick I've learnt from this forum, it also saves my worn-out typing finger !

Many thanks again, J, and good-luck Aussie on your research.

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by aussie @, Tasmania, Australia, Tuesday, June 07, 2016, 00:04 (1285 days ago) @ Jefff

Jeff,
Thanks so much for your assistance and good wishes.

I discovered this website last night. Although not directly relating to the FoD there may be other folk like ours from Herefordshire who (or their descendants) were also living in the FoD. HER is searchable and I found lots of PROBERT folk on there. I just need to clone myself now to get them all sorted! I thought it might interest you too.

http://htt.herefordshire.gov.uk/default.aspx

Cheers,
Aussie

Herefordshire Marriage Records & websites

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, June 07, 2016, 01:33 (1285 days ago) @ aussie

No problem A, we're all here to help if possible.
Yes, so many FoD enquiries also cross-over into Herefordshire, but sadly that fair county isn't as well blessed with online resources as Glos or Monmouthshire etc. (And very few parts of the British Isles, if any, are as well-served as the Forest is, courtesy of this excellent site of course, me & thee are truly spoilt).
Well done for finding that Herefordshire site and thanks for telling us about it. I've often been surprised what can be found by careful Googling, that's how I first found this FoD site !

One of my favourite sites is Genuki, altho it seems a bit weak wrt Herefordshire (perhaps while it's being redeveloped?), but some of it's pages are very helpful indeed, such as this example for a village I always think of being in Herefordshire, due to it's setting, appearance and fertile red soil, altho in fact it's in Glostershire except when it was once "in" Worcestershire !. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/RedmarleydAbitot

The site is strongly recommended for browsing around the UK, here's the Herefordshire section.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF

You've probably already found this one too, as mentioned by Graham earlier.
http://www.herefordshirefhs.org.uk/

I've recently found this site from an article in a UK Magazine. Just one of it's attractions is the ability to search and download old Hereford newspapers from the Great War years, and all free of charge.
http://www.herefordshirehistory.org.uk/archive

Herefordshire Council site, Family History Research
https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture/local-history-and-heritage/family-...

Herefordshire Council site, History & Archaeology
http://htt.herefordshire.gov.uk/default.aspx

Several old Trade Directories etc can be found from the link at base of this page. Most are FoD hence Glostershire, but there are some Herefordshire one's too
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/links/24-genealogy-research

Many more Directories freely-accessible for England & Wales here, this is the Herefordshire homepage
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/cdm/search/collection/p16445coll4/searchterm/Herefor...


Some general "Probert Ledbury" etc web-searching gave the following sites;

1950s photos of a Marje Taylor nee Probert at Fair Tree Farm,Ledbury.
http://www.old-ledbury.co.uk/HopPicking.htm

Which is from this website of old Ledbury photos, at first glance looks great, lots here !
Perhaps Admin would consider adding to this FoD FH site's Links pages ?
http://www.old-ledbury.co.uk/index.htm


Also worth a look ?
http://www.angelfire.com/ab3/probertpages/angela.html
http://www.peasantstopuddles.org/probert.htm
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/herefordshire/
http://www.curiousfox.com/vill100/Herefordshire70044_1.html
http://www.ledburycivicsociety.org/about-us/local-history-research-group/

Don't forget, searching this FoD forum will often yield relevant info, and maybe even find researchers sharing your family, past & maybe even present.

atb Jeff

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by aussie @, Tasmania, Australia, Sunday, June 05, 2016, 23:55 (1286 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Cheers Graham, yes, that 1733 marriage is the one I found too, but was just trying to check if there was another one at Ledbury with a date closer to the time of Richard's. A cousin has been told about a marriage at Tenbury, which is probably of another couple, in 1747. I'm staying with the 1733 marriage until something closer than Tenbury is found.
Thanks.
Aussie

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Saturday, June 04, 2016, 18:03 (1288 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

For everyone's convenience this is it,

Record_ID: 374193
Entry_Number:
Year: 1750
Month: Sep
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: PROBERT
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Richard Hallings Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: the son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: BO92/5
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury
Soundex: P616

Thanks Mike !

So possible siblings from this site's PRs are;

Record_ID 374374
Entry_Number
Year 1753
Month Jun
Day 17
Parents_Surname PROBERT
Child_Forenames Benjamin
Fathers_Forenames John
Mothers_Forenames Sarah
Mothers_Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating_Minister Richard Hallings Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda The Son of
Notes
Register_Reference BO92/5
Page_Number 26
Parish_Chapel Ledbury
Soundex P616

Record_ID 396482
Entry_Number
Year 1734
Month May
Day 3
Parents_Surname PROBERT
Child_Forenames Thomas
Fathers_Forenames John
Mothers_Forenames Sarah
Mothers_Surname
Residence Ledbury
Occupation
Officiating_Minister R Hallings vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register_Reference BO92/4
Page_Number
Parish_Chapel Ledbury
Soundex P616

Searching FamilySearch aka LDS site gives this possible marriage;

Name John Probert
Spouse's Name Sarah Boswood
Event Date 28 Oct 1733
Event Place All Saints,Hereford,Hereford,England

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch

This search show there are several other Baptisms to a presumably different John & Sarah Probert in Herefordshire both before and after the above "set".

UPDATE: Oops, didnt see Graham's post while I was creating mine.

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by aussie @, Tasmania, Australia, Monday, June 06, 2016, 00:03 (1286 days ago) @ Jefff

Thank you Mike and Jefff,

Yes, that's the baptism I was referring to when I posted that record ID... somewhat cautiously because I wasn't sure if I should post to the forum or send a ticket via help.

I have Benjamin's baptism but not Thomas, thanks for that. Maybe those names are possible clues if they followed the patronymic naming pattern... we've yet to see if that bears out.

Cheers,
Aussie

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by Woody @, South Africa, Sunday, June 12, 2016, 13:08 (1280 days ago) @ Jefff

I'm researching the Probert family and the last entry I have found is the marrige of Richard Probert to Mary Jordan on 17 Sept 1768 in English Bicknor. I wonder if the Record ID 374193 which is the baptism of a Richard Probert is the same Richard Probert who married Mary Jordan.I'm doing the research from South Africa, so any info would be greatly appreciated.

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by aussie @, Tasmania, Australia, Sunday, June 12, 2016, 14:09 (1280 days ago) @ Woody

Hi, Thanks for your message. Sorry, I'm not sure 100% on that but unless our Richard married twice (Mary Jordan first) I only know of him marrying Sarah Hosfield/Haffield 1776 Bosbury, Hereford, England. But maybe they were related anyway. I'm doing our research from Tas mania, I think you are closer to the UK. :)

(Admin - I received an error message, apparently the second, third, fourth and fifth letter of the Australian state I live in is a not accepted word, which is really weird because it is preceded by the letter T and ends with nia, so I had to try as space after the first three letter. Please rejig your system to recognise our part of the world!). Thanks, Aussie

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