edward ballinger (General)

by philrmoon11, Monday, April 16, 2018, 19:39 (2202 days ago)

Hi

Can anybody assist me please

I am told an Edward ballinger was transported to Australia about 1830's from Hereford assizes

Anyone have information about this, what crime did he commit

Any information welcome

Regards Phil

edward ballinger

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Monday, April 16, 2018, 20:23 (2202 days ago) @ philrmoon11

These may be related,

BNA Hereford Times - Saturday 05 January 1833

Edward Ballinger, aged 57, charged with having stolen a barrel, cask, and two elm boards, the property of Mary Platt, of Bridstow. Six months hard labour in the House of Correction.

BNA Hereford Times - Saturday 21 March 1835

Committed to the County Gaol.

Edward Ballinger, with stealing a wether sheep, the property of Mr. Samuel Aveline, at the parish of Marstow.

BNA Hereford Times - Saturday 25 April 1835

The following convicts were removed from the gaol to Chatham, to be transported pursuant to their sentences: Wm. Barrett, Thomas Suff, W. Collings, Edward Smith, John Denton, Jos. Denton, Edward Ballinger, James Bryan, and Wm. Quick.

Sheep stealing would have merited transportation at the time.

edward ballinger

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Monday, April 16, 2018, 20:48 (2202 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Ancestry England and Wales Criminal Registers

County of Hereford 1835

County Sessions 25th March

Edward Ballinger, Sheep Stealing, Transportation for Life.

Ancestry:-

in the Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868

Name: Edward Ballinger
Vessel: Susan
Convicted Date: 26 Mar 1835
Voyage Date: 6 Oct 1835
Colony: New South Wales
Place of Conviction: Hereford, Herefordshire, England

John DENTON and Joseph DENTON included in the same entry.

Edward Ballinger

by sidtoomey01 @, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Tuesday, April 17, 2018, 00:36 (2202 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Unfortunately records show that he died at sea 16th January 1836 (Source NSW Convict Indents)
He apparently had been ill since leaving England on board the vessel "Susan". There is a description of his illness and time of death which is faded and hard to read. (Source UK Royal Navy Journals)

Edward Ballinger

by philrmoon11, Tuesday, April 17, 2018, 12:41 (2201 days ago) @ sidtoomey01

Hi

Thanks for the information

Does anyone know if his son john 1825 Goodrich went to Australia about the same time ??

His other son Samuel was in the ross union workhouse in 1841 aged 7

Don't know as yet what happened to his other children but rewards 2 nd wife had died ( Diana )

Regards Phil

Edward Ballinger

by sidtoomey01 @, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Tuesday, April 17, 2018, 21:15 (2201 days ago) @ philrmoon11

I don't know if this helps but there was a John Ballinger arrived in Van Diemans Land in 1845
Aged 18. Convicted at Gloucester

Sid Toomey

Edward Ballinger

by sidtoomey01 @, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Tuesday, April 17, 2018, 21:19 (2201 days ago) @ sidtoomey01

In your post am i correct in reading that John Ballinger was born in Goodrich in 1825
Sid Toomey

Edward Ballinger

by philrmoon11, Tuesday, April 17, 2018, 22:05 (2201 days ago) @ sidtoomey01

Hi

Yes john ballinger bon 1825 Goodrich

Where is the place he was transported to ??

What was his crime convicted at Gloucester and when please

Regards Phil

John Ballinger

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Tuesday, April 17, 2018, 22:33 (2201 days ago) @ philrmoon11

February 4 1845 John Ballinger was charged with stealing a spade at Bishops Cleeve, the property of John New. Source: Gloucestershire Chronicle dated 8 February 1845. John Ballinger was sentenced to 7 years transportation for stealing a spade at Bishops Cleeve. Source: Gloucestershire Standard dated 11 March 1845. John Ballinger and others were removed from the county gaol to Millbank as reported in the Gloucestershire Journal dated 29 March 1845.

John Ballinger

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Tuesday, April 17, 2018, 22:37 (2201 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

Arrived Van Diemen's Land 16 September 1845 aboard the ship Marion having sailed on 7 June 1845. Source: https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/ballinger/john/1465

John Ballinger

by philrmoon11, Wednesday, April 18, 2018, 13:23 (2200 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

Hi

Is there any information stating where this john came from ??

Possibly goodrich or Herefordshire

Regards Phil

John Ballinger

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Wednesday, April 18, 2018, 19:36 (2200 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Reported in Cheltenham Chronicle 20 July 1843. "On Monday July 17 1843 a John Ballinger was brought up and charged with stealing a quantity of potatoes, the property of Joseph Walker, who deposed that they corresponded in every respect with a description of potatoes growing in his garden, but he could not exactly swear to them. The prisoner was consequently discharged."

John Ballinger

by philrmoon11, Wednesday, April 18, 2018, 20:31 (2200 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

Hi

Anyone know where he was from


Gloucester, ross, goodrich, or Herefordshire


Regards Phil

John Ballinger

by sidtoomey01 @, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Wednesday, April 18, 2018, 21:16 (2200 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Some further information on John Ballinger from Tasmanian Convict Records.
From Indents of convicts 1824-1853
Five Feet tall.
Surgeons report states he is well balanced.

From Conduct record.
15 months at Port Esperance Probation Station.
Freedom Certificate 17th August 1852.

From 1846 Convict Muster.
Probation Dover. (Dover Convict Probation Station reportedly began after closure of Port Esperance Probation Station in 1845-1847.
It is located on Port Esperance 81km South West of Hobart.
It is the most Southerly Town of significance in Australia and the last place to buy petrol and supplies.
There are three islands off the coast from Dover called Faith, Hope and Charity. Faith Island has convict graves on it from the early days)
Main Industry for the convicts was timber splitting and felling..
Probable main recreational pastime for the convicts would have been trying to keep warm.

From Trove Historical Newspapers (Free Website). Launceston Examiner of 16th June 1847 (Tasmanian Newspapers often carried lists of convicts, followed by the name of the ship on which they arrived, and details such as Pardon being granted or obtaining of Certificate of Freedom)
On 11 Th June 1849, John Ballinger was granted Ticket of Leave.

John Ballinger

by sidtoomey01 @, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Friday, April 20, 2018, 01:10 (2199 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Hi

The following may be the line you are chasing.
Some sources from Ancestry Family Trees and some from FOD Parish records transcriptions.

Edward Ballinger Baptised 28th April 1776 in Llangarron Parish Herefordshire
He married Ann Hook 9th February 1801 at Goodrich
She died 7th November 1814 Goodrich.
He then married Diana Davies 10th May 1815 at Goodrich. (Family name recorded as Ballingham. ? He was a widower)
Their Children baptised at Goodrich :-
1821 Prudence
1823 Charlotte
1825 John
1826 Harriotte
1828 George.
In the above records he was shown as a barge man living at Copped Wood, (I believe it is now known at Coppett Hill and was a possession of the Manor of Goodrich).

Edwards parents could have been :-
John Ballinger (1743-1798)
Elizabeth Bessex (1751-1799)
Married 14th Dec 1768 at Dixton Newton Hereford (England Select Marriages 1538-1973)

John Ballinger

by sidtoomey01 @, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Friday, April 20, 2018, 01:36 (2199 days ago) @ sidtoomey01

Further to my previous reply, if John Ballinger and Elizabeth Bessex do prove to be Edwards parents and they were married at Dixton Parish Church, a brief search of Baptisms on this site show the following children Baptised at Dixton.
1781..Thomas
1783..Illegible
1784..Isaac

The following may be pure coincidence but the following were Landowners in Whitchurch Parish in 1844 (Source Geoff Watkins Maps and Whitchurch Tithe Map)

Isaac Ballinger
John Ballinger
Percy Ballinger
Thomas Ballinger
William Ballinger

I hope i am not confusing the search.

Edward Ballinger

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Saturday, April 21, 2018, 12:14 (2197 days ago) @ philrmoon11

George BALLINGER was baptised in 1828,

Record_ID 183295
Entry_Number 396
Year 1828
Month Aug
Day 27
Parents_Surname BALLINGER
Child_Forenames George
Fathers_Forenames Edward
Mothers_Forenames Diana
Mothers_Surname
Residence [not stated]
Occupation Bargeman
Officiating_Minister Hy Williams Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register_Reference BF 16/5
Page_Number 50
Parish_Chapel Goodrich

However, his burial the following month gives his age as 5.

Record_ID 126596
Entry_Number 223
Year 1828
Month Sep
Day 0
Surname BALLINGER
Forenames George
Residence Copped Wood
Age_at_death 5
Officiating_Minister Hry Williams Vicar
Event Burial
Cause_of_death
Memoranda Son of Edw[ar]d & Diana Ballinger
Notes
Register_Reference BF16/10
Page_No 28
Parish_Chapel Goodrich

This might mean that some of the other children were late-baptised too. With that in mind there is this from GR 1841 Census,

Whitchurch, Part of, Washings

John BALLINGER, 20, Water Man, born in county.

There is also a Thomas BALLINGER, aged 25, in the household (also born in county) but I can’t see yet where he might fit in.

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