Lodge family (General)

by JHarvey, Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 21:24 (139 days ago)

I am researching Thomas Lodge born 1799 in Mitcheldean. He was the son of Thomas Lodge (1768-1840) also born in Mitcheldean and Phebe Sier. Thomas (1768-1840) was the son of John Lodge (1739-1829) and Hester, aka Esther Pope (1736-1817). John and Hester were married in Westbury on Severn in 1762. I have a DNA connection to John Lodge (1739-1829). I am looking for information on whether Thomas Lodge(1799-?) ever married and a possible date of death. Thank for any and all leads. John H Lodge

Lodge family

by grahamdavison @, Thursday, June 27, 2019, 00:09 (139 days ago) @ JHarvey

There is a death of Thomas Lodge at Littledean age 21 in 1821, which is a possibility.

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, June 27, 2019, 00:27 (139 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Yes Graham, especially as his Baptism was also at Littledean, as were his brothers John b1801 and George b1803
(full PRs in this site's database).


Record_ID: 258058
Entry_Number:
Year: 1799
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: LODGE
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Phebe
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Wm Fryer Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 9
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: L320


Plus his parents had been married at Littledean.

Record_ID: 113284
Entry_Number: 153
Year: 1797
Month: Dec
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: LODGE
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: SIER
Brides_Forenames: Phebe
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 1797 Oct 29 Nov 5 & 12
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Jos Boughton
Witness_2: Hannah Huggins
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Fryer Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Bride signs: Pheby Sier
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 45
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex_Groom: L320
Soundex_Bride: S600


This looks like the burial of father Thomas, also in Littledean.
(I cannot find a burial record for wife Pheobe).

Record_ID: 177394
Entry_Number: 640
Year: 1840
Month: Jan
Day:5
Surname:LODGE
Forenames:Thomas
Residence:Hundred of St Briavels
Age_at_death:74
Officiating_Minister:J. Parsons Curate
Event:Burial
Cause_of_death:[not stated]
Memoranda:
Notes:Register_Reference:P 110 IN 1/11
Page_No:80
Parish_Chapel:Littledean
Soundex:L320


It looks like his brother John was buried just a year after Thomas, very sad...

Record_ID:176944
Entry_Number:190
Year:1822
Month:Mar
Day:29
Surname:LODGE
Forenames:John
Residence:Little Dean
Age_at_death:20
Officiating_Minister:R. M. Manwaring Curate
Event:Burial
Cause_of_death:[not stated]
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:P 110 IN 1/11
Page_No:24
Parish_Chapel:Littledean
Soundex:L320


Record_ID:176927
Entry_Number:173
Year:1821
Month:Mar
Day:31
Surname:LODGE
Forenames:Thomas
Residence:Little Dean
Age_at_death:21
Officiating_Minister:R. M. Manwaring Curate
Event:Burial
Cause_of_death:[not stated]
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:P 110 IN 1/11
Page_No:22
Parish_Chapel:Littledean
Soundex:L320


Also;

Record_ID:176602
Entry_Number:
Year:1804
Month:May
Day:30
Surname:LODGE
Forenames:George
Residence:
Age_at_death:an Infant
Officiating_Minister:
Event:Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:Not in BTs
Register_Reference:P110 IN 1/4
Page_No:8
Parish_Chapel:Littledean
Soundex:L320


I cannot find any other later records that might be Thomas b1799 , including the 1841 census.

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by JHarvey, Thursday, June 27, 2019, 02:34 (138 days ago) @ Jefff

Jeff,

Much appreciation for your quick work. i think this is most likely the Thomas I seek. A great lead.

Best Wishes,
John Lodge

Lodge family, Eastern Forest, 1700s

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, June 27, 2019, 13:14 (138 days ago) @ JHarvey

Hi John,
thanks for your kind words, we all try to help whenever possible, especially Graham who does so much for this great website.

All the information we've provided are obtained from this site's huge database of local Parish Records. I must admit I'd assumed you were already familiar with them judging by your initial post. That said, I did wonder why you stated many of the family were from Mitcheldean ?

The database is accessed from the "Resources" heading on the blue menubar along the top of the site's homepage; under this drop-down menu you will find several different sets of family-history related including the Parish Records.
See https://forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/resources/parish-records

From your point of view searching the P.R.s suggest that Thomas is a traditional family name for the Lodge family, so a little care must be exercised in sorting out the various men - the database includes 69 entries of these various "Thomas Lodge"s across the whole Forest area, and quite a few "Philip"s too for that matter.

Given the dates and location it seems likely that these Baptisms are all the same family, and POSSIBLY ancestors of your Thomas b1799. It's a shame though the Baptisms don't include mother's name. They were found by searching Baptisms using "Phil Lodge" as the father's name (in case the Minister spells it Philip or Phillip)


Record_ID: 256688
Entry_Number:
Year: 1719
Month: Sep
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: LODGE
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Phillip
Mothers_Forenames:
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John White
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 5
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: L320


Record_ID: 256723
Entry_Number:
Year: 1721
Month: Nov
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: LODGE
Child_Forenames: Phillip
Fathers_Forenames: Phillip
Mothers_Forenames:
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John White
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: L320


Record_ID: 256763
Entry_Number:
Year: 1724
Month: Apr
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: LODGE
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: Phillip
Mothers_Forenames:
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John White
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 9
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: L320


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It seems likely this is their parents, found within the Marriage Allegations database. It does point towards bride Mary coming from the Mitcheldean area, while groom Philip is from the Littledean area;

Record_ID: 33892
Entry No.: 0
Year: 1718
Month: Feb
Day: 8
Groom_Surname: LODGE
Groom_Forenames: Philip
Groom_Age_at_Marriage: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Groom_Rank/Profession:
Groom_Residence: Flaxley
Groom_Fathers_Surname:
Groom_Fathers_Forenames:
Groom_Father's_Rank/Profession:
Bride_Surname: COLE
Bride_Forenames: Mary
Bride_Age_at_Marriage: 21
Bride_Condition: Spinster
Bride_Rank/Profession:
Bride_Residence: Abenhall
Bride_Fathers_Surname:
Bride_Fathers_Forenames:
Bride_Father's_Rank/Profession:
Marriage_by: Licence
Signature_or_Mark: He signs
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Sealed and Delivered in the presence of:
Event_type: Marriage Allegation
Memoranda: Sworn before Nath Lye
Transcriber's_Notes: Old style date 1717/8
Register_Reference: Q3/34
Page_no.: 45
Soundex_Groom: L320
Soundex_Bride: C400


Despite the slightly different area, it does seem possible if not probable that this Marriage Record is the same couple given all the similarities ???

Record_ID: 99092
Entry_Number:
Year: 1718
Month: May
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: LODGE
Grooms_Forenames: Philip
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Huntley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: COLE
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Huntley
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Abra: Morse rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P184 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 24
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex_Groom: L320
Soundex_Bride: C400

This MIGHT be their father, but it could equally be from an earlier generation ???

Record_ID: 175656
Entry_Number:
Year: 1726
Month: Dec
Day: 11
Surname: LODGE
Forenames: Philip
Residence:
Age_at_death:
Officiating_Minister: J Whinfield Minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: Not in BTs
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/3
Page_No: 52
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: L320


But be aware there are quite a few PRs for Thomas, Philip, Mary LODGEs within the PRs in our general search area (eastern Forest- Abenhall, Littledean, Huntley even Westbury etc... So with the PRs being quite brief and without any Census data it's hard to sort them apart.

Browsing the LODGE name within the PR search, I'm beginning to wonder (aka guess !) if your line originates from the Longhope area, where there's quite a few Lodge PRs across the years. I even see a Longhope Baptism for a Thomas Lodge in 1601, but this is of course purely conjecture at the moment.

Hoping this helps.. atb J

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by JHarvey, Thursday, June 27, 2019, 02:37 (138 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Graham,

Thank you for this information. This lead looks very promising. I was not expecting such a quick response.

Best Wishes,
John Lodge

Lodge family

by JHarvey, Thursday, June 27, 2019, 03:01 (138 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Graham,

Could you provide me with a source or copy of the record./

Much appreciated.

John lodge

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