Hello all

Having only just started with family history it seems as if I have hit my first brickwall. I'm looking for Elijah Jayne, father of my maternal Grandfather Percy George Jayne. According to Percy's birth certifcate I have here Elijah had died before 1913 so any pointers to where to go would be gratefully appricated.

Thanks in advance

Ron

Hi Ron on FBDM
Elijah Jayne Death age 31 Q2 1898 Pontypridd 11a 225.
Regards Kelvin.

Name: Percy George Jayne
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: Nuneaton
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 2076

JAYNE/BOLTER children

Eva F Jayne 1915 Oct-Nov-Dec Bedwellty
Verdun Jayne Oct Nov Dec 1918 Bedwellty Wales
Richard J Jayne Oct Nov Dec 1919 Bedwellty Wales
Alfred C Jayne Jul Aug Sep 1922 Merthyr T Wales
Phyllis W Jayne Apr May Jun 1925 Nuneaton Warwickshire
Glyndwr S G Jayne Apr May Jun 1927 Bedwellty Wales

Elijah had died before 1913

Name: Percy G Jayne
Spouse : Gwladys E Bolter
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bedwelty
County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 168

Year: 1903
Month: Feb
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: JAYNE
Child_Forenames: Percy George
Fathers_Forenames: Elijah
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Union
Occupation: [Not stated]
Officiating_Minister: C Victor Stillingfleet Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Date Born not stated
Notes: Four members of the same family baptised on same day.
No indication of ages but assume one was an infant and the others were progressively older.
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/18
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

1903 JAYNE Agnes Annie Baptism Westbury on Severn
1903 JAYNE Alfred Thomas Baptism Westbury on Severn
1903 JAYNE Arthur Ernest Baptism Westbury on Severn

1901 Workhouse -prabable as George
Agnes Jaynes abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Inmate Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Alfred Jaynes abt 1890 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Inmate Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
George Jaynes abt 1894 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Inmate Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Arthur Jaynes abt 1896 South Wales, Trieforest Inmate Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Alice May Jaynes abt 1898 South Wales, Trie Forest Inmate Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Jane Jaynes abt 1900 South Wales, Cardiff Inmate Westbury On Severn,

1901 Workhouse
Fannie Jayne abt 1868 Glam, Merthyr Inmate Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan

Name: Percy George Jayne
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 238

Name: Elijah Jayne
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 31
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 225

Name: Arthur Ernest Jaynes
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 534

Name:Fanny Weaver
Name: Elijah Jayne
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 883

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Year: 1901
Month: May
Day: 11
Surname: JAYNE
Forenames: Stephen
Residence: Abbey Street Cinderford
Age_at_death: 67
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 138
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1901
Stephen Jayne abt 1833 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean,
Edna Jayne abt 1831 Farnborough, Warwickshire, England Wife East Dean,
Tom Jayne abt 1886 London, England Grandson East Dean,

1891
Stephen Jayne abt 1834 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean,
Edna Jayne abt 1832 Fambord, Oxfordshire, England Wife East Dean,
Joseph Jayne abt 1864 Tividale, Staffordshire, England Son East Dean,
Tom Jayne abt 1886 London, England Grandson East Dean,

1881
Stephen Jayne abt 1833 East Dean (East Dean), Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxley,
Edna Jayne abt 1829 Farnbrogh, Warwickshire, England Wife Flaxley,
Stephen Jayne abt 1859 Olbury, Staffordshire, England Son Flaxley,
Albert Jayne abt 1863 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Flaxley, G
Joe Jayne abt 1865 Teavey Dale, Worcestershire, England Son Flaxley, G
Sarah A. Jayne abt 1867 Teavey Dale, Worcestershire, England Daughter Flaxley,
Elijah Jayne abt 1869 Bridge Town, Staffordshire, England Son Flaxley,
Jabez Jayne abt 1871 Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Son Flaxley,

1871 Hednesford, Cannock Staffs
Stephen Jann 35
Edna Jann 39
Alfred Jann 17
William Jann 15
Stephen Jann 12
E Henry Jann 10
Albert Jann 8
Joseph Jann 6
Sarah A Jann 4
Elizah Jann 2
John Jann 1 month
Julia Stephens 10

1861
Stephen Joyn abt 1833 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edna Joyn abt 1832 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Joyn abt 1854 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Joyn abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Stephen Joyn abt 1858 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edward H Joyn abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Edna Webb
Name: Stephen Jean
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Banbury
County: Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1160

1851
James Jayne abt 1805 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean,
Mary Jayne abt 1806 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean,
Stephen Jayne abt 1835 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,
Joseph Jayne abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,
Sophia Jayne abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean,
Sarah A Jayne abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean,
William Janes abt 1804 Staffordshire, England Lodger West Dean,

1841 possible
James Joy abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean,
Mary Joy abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean,
James Joy abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean,
Thomas Joy abt 1832 Ruardean,
Stephen Joy abt 1834 Ruardean,
Joseph Joy abt 1841 Ruardean,

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Slowhands

I have Stephen Jayne in my Family Tree, primarily because his sister Ann Jayne 1827 married Thomas Marfell 1826. Their parents were James Jayne 1803 & Mary Wintle 1806, and yes the possible 1841 Census entry is correct.

As ever your entry has added to the information I already had and am forwarding the link to a Jayne contact in America, who I am sure will be interested.

I am not aware of a connection to Percy George Jayne, could you explain this please.

Jim Ashton

Jim

It appears that Percy George's father is Elijah s/o Stephen and Edna.

regards
S

1881
Stephen Jayne abt 1833 East Dean (East Dean), Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Edna Jayne abt 1829 Farnbrogh, Warwickshire, England Wife Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Stephen Jayne abt 1859 Olbury, Staffordshire, England Son Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Albert Jayne abt 1863 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Joe Jayne abt 1865 Teavey Dale, Worcestershire, England Son Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Sarah A. Jayne abt 1867 Teavey Dale, Worcestershire, England Daughter Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Elijah Jayne abt 1869 Bridge Town, Staffordshire, England Son Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Jabez Jayne abt 1871 Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Son Flaxley, Gloucestershire

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Name: Fanny Jayne
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 34
District: Cardiff (1837-1974)
County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 203

1901 Workhouse
Fannie Jayne abt 1868 Glam, Merthyr Inmate Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan

Name:Fanny Weaver
Name: Elijah Jayne
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 883

1881
Geo. Weaver abt 1831 Walford (East Dean), Hereford, England Head Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Maria Weaver abt 1829 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Allen Weaver abt 1861 Cinderford Son Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Fanny J. Weaver abt 1868 Cinderford Daughter Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Arthur Weaver abt 1871 Cinderford Son Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Alice A. Weaver abt 1879 Cinderford Granddaughter Flaxley, Gloucestershire

1871
George Weaver 40
Maria Weaver 42
Alfred John Weaver 15
Amelia Weaver 14
George Weaver 12
Allen Weaver 10
James T Weaver 8
Fanny J Weaver 3
Arthur Weaver 7 months

and then to

1841
Thomas Weaver abt 1777 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
Sarah Weaver abt 1790 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
John Weaver abt 1828 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
George Weaver abt 1830 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
Charles Weaver abt 1833 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Thanks Slowhands

Forgive me for not working this out. Wood and Trees springs to mind. The Marfell/Jayne connection is highlighted in the 1851 Census :

1851 Census East Dean
MARFELL Thomas 25 Coal Miner East Dean
Anne 24 East Dean ..... Nee Jayne
William 5 East Dean
Elizabeth 2 East Dean
Sarah Ann 7m East Dean
JAYNE Thomas Brother in Law 19 Coal Miner East Dean
Eliza Sister in Law 8 Scholar East Dean

Thomas Jayne 19 (brother of Stephen Jayne)shown here went on to marry Mary Boughton 1831, one of their 7 children Eli Jayne 1872 went on to marry Eliza Tippins 1873 - a 7th cousin of mine twice removed. Joseph Jayne 1840, brother of Stephen Jayne married Rebecca Meek 3rd cousin 4 times removed.....the connections are endless.

Jim Ashton

Forgive me for not working this out

nothing to forgive :-) you are most welcome !

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hello all

Thank you all for the replies, really appriciated. It was understood here in Nuneaton that there was nothing to find about Percy George's (my Grandfather BTW), Father and so on back in time. I am very pleased to see that there is indeed quite a lot about them and I shall be looking back at them as soon as I can. So once again, thank you all.

I already have some information on Percy's children so if any of you need or want it, please let me know.

Regards

Ron

Enjoy joining the dots up !!

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

I have a death certificate for Elijah who died in a mining accident. His wife Fanny Jayne was buried at Cathays Cemetry cardiff 22/9/1902 at 2.40pm Section 0 grave 627.
happy to share with you. Regards Eileen

I have a copy of Elijahs death certificate if you would like it. Also details of His wife Fanny Jane;s burial
Regards Eileen