Ann & William ROBERTS 1861 Census
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=1448

I've just revisited the previous thread above after being in contact with David Watkins (my namesake and 3rd cousin) who lives in London.

Ann and William ROBERTS are David's ancestors through their daughter Sarah Ann ROBERTS (b.1853) who married Joseph JONES. Sarah Ann and Joseph had a daughter Elizabeth Ann (b.1877) who married Ernest WATKINS.

At the time of the previous thread we did not have the transcribed records of the Forest of Dean Bible Christian (Ruardean Chapel) and were we confusing Sarah Ann ROBERTS with another with the same name?

David tells me he has the birth certificate of Sarah Ann ROBERTS born 4 May 1853 Ruardean Woodside to father William collier and Ann (nee Griffiths)

* I cannot find a marriage of William and Ann in the parish records.

Baptisms of the Children of Ann and William ROBERTS taken from the Forest of Dean Bible Christian (Ruardean Chapel) records.

Tom 11 May 1851
Sarah Ann 29 May 1853
Elizabeth 2 Sep 1855
Mary Ann 7 Feb 1858

It also appears that Maria ROBERTS born about 1859 is a sister to Sarah Ann.

Maria married Sydney George WATKINS 23 Nov 1879 at Drybrook of which I have the certificate. Witnesses Mary Ann Reed (possibly nee Roberts as above) and James Reed.

... which I suspect brings us back to the TINGLE entry in 1861 :-)

A non conformist marriage ?

1851 Aston Bridge
William Roberts abt 1828 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Roberts abt 1829 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire { must be heavily pregnant with Tom , baptised in May)

Year: 1853
Month: May
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: Sarah Ann
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [West]East Dean
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: J Ashton
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Bible Christian Chapel Ruardean
Register_Reference: D2598 5/3
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Forest of Dean Bible Christian Circuit

1861 Ruardean Woodside
William Lingle abt 1827 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Lingle abt 1828 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Lingle abt 1851 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Lingle abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Lingle abt 1856 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Lingle abt 1858 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Lingle abt 1860 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Willm Roberts 46
Ann Roberts 42
Thomas Roberts 18
L A Roberts 16
M A Roberts 14
Jas Roberts 11
Mariah Roberts 8

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Year: 1829
Month: Apr
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: GRIFFITHS
Child_Forenames: Ann
Fathers_Forenames: Giles
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruerdean [Ruardean]
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbroke Min[iste]r
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

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Just rececently I've been contacted by a Roberts decendant who found Maria ROBERTS (born about 1860 Ruardean) on my website family tree. Maria is a sister to Sarah Ann.
http://david.watkins.org.au/?My_Family_History:Family_Tree

Maria ROBERTS married Sydney George WATKINS in 1879. The new information that was given to me is that Maria had a son prior to her marrige and he was baptised Richard George ROBERTS. There is no fathers name stated on either his birth certificate or his baptism which is below.

Can anybody locate Richard George ROBERTS on one of the censuses?

Entry_Number: 20
Year: 1878
Month: May
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: Richard George
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Maria
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: East Dean Gloucester
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Thomas Perry Oliver
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Ruardean Woodside
Notes:
Register_Reference: D2598 5/5
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Forest of Dean Bible Christian Circuit

1881 living with grandparents William & Ann:

Household Members: Name Age
William Roberts 53
Ann Roberts 52
Elizabeth Roberts 26
James Roberts 22
Henry Roberts 9
Richard Roberts 3
Thomas Roberts 2

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2522; Folio: 20; Page: 2; GSU roll: 1341609.

and 1891:

Name: Richard Roberts
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: E Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Ruardean
Ecclesiastical parish: Ruardean
Town: Village
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: Englan
others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Roberts 64
Ann Roberts 62
Henry Roberts 18
Richard Roberts 13

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2056; Folio 111; Page 11; GSU roll: 6097166.

Can't find on 1901 though.

Bob

1881
William Roberts abt 1828 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Roberts abt 1829 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Roberts abt 1855 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Roberts abt 1859 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Roberts abt 1872 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Roberts abt 1876 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Roberts abt 1878 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Roberts abt 1879 Ross, Hereford, England Grandson Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Roberts abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
William Roberts abt 1827 R Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Ann Roberts abt 1829 R Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Henry Roberts abt 1873 E Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Richard Roberts abt 1878 E Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1901 Pettycroft
Ann Roberts abt 1833 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Herefordshire
Henry Roberts abt 1874 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Herefordshire

Name: Emily Cann
Name: Richard George Roberts
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Paddington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 95

Name: Richard George Roberts
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chelsea (1841-1981)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 403

1901 Drybrook
Richard G Cinderby abt 1878 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Cinderby abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard G Cinderby abt 1900 Chelsea, London, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1911
ROBERTS RICHARD G M 1878 33 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
ROBERTS EMILY F 1878 33 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
ROBERTS HERBERT M 1906 5 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
ROBERTS PEARL E F 1902 9 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
ROBERTS RICHARD G M 1900 11 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

Name: Richard G Roberts
Death Registration Month/Year: 1948
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 408

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Name: Emily Roberts
Death Registration Month/Year: 1946
Age at death (estimated): 69
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 437

1891
Emily Cann abt 1877 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire

1881
Simon R. Cann abt 1832 Westleigh, Devon, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Cann . abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Cann abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Cann abt 1863 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Cann abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Cann abt 1868 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Cann abt 1875 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Cann abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Cann abt 1880 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Dorah Stephens abt 1861 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor (Head) (Visitor) Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Stephens East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1883
Month: Nov
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: CANN
Child_Forenames: Emily
Fathers_Forenames: Simeon Robert
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Drybrook
Occupation: Coal Miner
Officiating_Minister: Wm Barker Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: P[rivately?]
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC109 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 154
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

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