Watkins/Short (General)

by m p griffiths , Sunday, March 28, 2010, 20:35 (5433 days ago) @ RENS

previous reply - FOD records

Thomas WATKINS (widower) of Arlingham married Sarah CROSS, at Westbury on Severn 27 August 1799 - and the children in Arlingham from 1800 onwards (would assume? they belonged to this couple)

Inc. two Samuel's christened at Arlingham St Mary - Gloucestershire Baptism Index 1813-1837 (also on the Church of Latter Day Saints site)

Samuel WATKINS - 24 January 1816 parents Thos. (labourer) & Sarah (may be this is Sarah nee CROSS???) - don't have the burial Index unfortunately.

Samuel WATKINS - 17 August 1817 parents Thomas (labourer) & Sarah

The death certificate you have of Samuel in 1911 says he was 101 - however....

Going back to the 1851 census, (earlier reply) Samuel WATKINS gives his age as 34, c 1817

This is the 1861 census (where Samuel says he is age 44 c1817)

1861 Surrey, Merrow District

Samuel WALKINS - age 44 - Gardener, born Glos. Arlingham
Mary A - 35, Gardener's wife - Glos. Wilminster ***

*** Mary Ann SHORT, daughter of Samuel & Mary (occ Labourer)
address: Whitminster, baptised - 1 June 1823, Whitminster alias Wheatenhurst St Andrew

Sarah A - 17 - House Servant, born Glos. Arlingham
Thomas - 15, Farm Labourer - born Glos. Randwick
John - 13 - born Glos. Randwick
Samuel - 10 - born Upton St Leonard
Mary J -7 - born ditto
William - 5 - born ditto
Francis G - 2 months - born Surrey Merrow

Here are the other siblings of Mary Ann SHORT christened at Whitminster alias W.S.A

Sarah - 4 March 1821, Esther - 6 November 1825, Sabina - 19 July 1829, John - 23 September 1832

1841 Census, Wheatenhurst

Hester DAVIES - age 82 born in County
Mary SHORT - age 50
Sabina SHORT - age 11
John SHORT - age 8

1851 Census, Wheatenhurst

Mary SHORT - Wid - age 60, Farm Labourer, born Glos. Eastington
Sabina SHORT - daughter, unmarried age 21, born Wheatenhurst

brother John SHORT age 18, is also still in Wheatenhurst, farm labourer, lodging with William & Ann BARRON

(Unable to find the WATKINS family on the 1871 anywhere - On the 1871 census for Merrow, Surrey - the Enumerator has written (4 crossed over with a 7) - leaves missing.....

1881 Census, Merrow, Surrey
Merrow Street

Samual WATKINS, 67, (c1814 - three years earlier) formerly Gardener, Glos. Arlingham (Afflicted)
Mary Ann - 56, born Glos. Westminster
Samuel - unmarried - 27,
Mary Jane - 25 - unmarried, Laundress, born Upton St Leonard
Francis G - 20, Ag. Lab. born Surrey Merrow
Albert H - 13 - born ditto
Alfred WATKINS - Grandson, age 11, born ditto

1891 Census, Surrey, Merrow
Merrow Common - Aspen Lodge

Samuel WATKINS age 77 (c1814) Gardener retired, born Glos. Arlingham
Mary A - 67 - born Glos. Whitminster
Samuel - 39, Groom Domestic Servant, born Upton St Leonard

1901 Census, Surrey, Merrow
Lower Lodge, (Clandon Park)

Samuel WATKINS age 87 (c1814) - Retired Coachman, born Glos. Allingham
Mary A - 77 - born Glos. Whitminster
Samuel - unmarried age 43, Groom Domestic, born U-S-L