Local Knowledge Sought - Two Bridges Tump (General)
by rbaynton , Thursday, April 01, 2010, 08:34 (5429 days ago)
My grandmother (Lizzie Jones) is recorded in the 1901 census as 7 years of age at Two Bridges Tump, Bradley Hill, East Dean
No trouble in locating Bradley Hill or Two Bridges but I am trying to pin down Two Bridges Tump which I presume to be the name of their cottage.
I wondered if there is any living memory as to where this is exactly, better still is it still extant?
Any response, (however vague!!) would be appreciated as I have hit a bit of a dead end with this one.
Thanks in advance
Roger
Local Knowledge Sought - Two Bridges Tump
by Bob Philpott , North Wiltshire, Thursday, April 01, 2010, 10:31 (5429 days ago) @ rbaynton
Hello I know nothing about Two Bridges but can say that the word 'Tump' is a Forest expression for a small hill. I would therefore suggest that Two Bridges Tump is no more than a raised area of Two Bridges. Bob Philpott
Local Knowledge Sought - Two Bridges Tump
by rbaynton , Thursday, April 01, 2010, 10:45 (5429 days ago) @ Bob Philpott
Thanks
Tump/Gloucestershire Dialect - Rev. Rd. Webster Huntley
by m p griffiths , Thursday, April 01, 2010, 11:31 (5429 days ago) @ rbaynton
"Full text of "A Glossary of the Cotswold (Gloucestershire) dialect" - A-Z - by the late Rev. Richard Webster HUNTLEY M.A. (born 2 April 1794) - Boxwell Court Estate nr. Leighterton (other side of the Severn) - (amongst other occupations, Vicar of Alberbury) - who spent his younger days in Dursley.
Tump: Earth thrown up - Twmp - Welsh Idem
Tump, a hillock, timulus
also : Old Tump House, New Road, Blakeney - previous forum message (John Smith m Elizabeth VIRGO - 31.3.2010)
The Rev's article is fascinating, and I recognise some of the words from my childhood i.e. Spkreathe - 'to have face of hands roughened by frost' - remember walking to School with red face/hands and legs in the Winter. Although it doesn't explain why we called the end of a loaf (The Nobby!!)
Local Knowledge Sought - Two Bridges Tump
by Roger Griffiths , Thursday, April 01, 2010, 15:46 (5429 days ago) @ rbaynton
I have the reprint of the first edition of the 1" OS map for the area (Sheet 59). 'Tump' not marked. However, there is a mound by the little road that runs into Two Bridges. On the Landranger map there is a house on it and another nearby. I have the large scale OS maps around 1900 (Soudley) but they don't quite reach Two Bridges unfortunately. Many's the time I have driven up and down the road between Blakeney and Soudley. Most, if not all the houses in the valley and hillsides are old, certainly well before 1900.
Roger
Two Bridges Tump, Ayleford
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, April 01, 2010, 17:22 (5429 days ago) @ rbaynton
By the brook Bradley House was presumably built for Samuel Hewlett, an ironfounder who was
the occupant in 1834. (fn. 65) To the south are two mid 19th-century houses, one, Ayleford House,
dated 1866. Downstream, nearer the hamlet of Ayleford, a row of four cottages north-west of Two Bridges,
owned by Samuel Hewlett in 1834, (fn. 66) was partly derelict in 1992.
From: 'Forest of Dean: Settlement', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred,
St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 300-325.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23266 Date accessed: 01 April 2010.
Now compare this to the order of the 1901 Census District 21
Page 6
First on Page is Bradley Hall - James Baldwin
then 5 "dwellings" or family units before the entry for
Two Bridges tump of 2 dwellings
Page 7 is Two Bridges.and back to Ayleford
On the Explorer OS map OL14 there is a "Motte" clearly marked
just north of Ayleford before you reach Two Bridges. I suspect that the Tump you are looking for is this Motte
At Ayleford where it crossed the brook is a stone farmhouse called Rowmedley, (fn. 21) built in the 17th century and much altered in the 19th. A house nearby, where Howell's Lane crosses the parish boundary at Haie brook, was a beerhouse called the Two Bridges in the late 19th century and the early 20th. (fn. 22)
From: 'Awre', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 14-46. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23250 Date accessed: 01 April 2010.
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Two Bridges Tump, Ayleford
by rbaynton , Thursday, April 01, 2010, 17:30 (5429 days ago) @ slowhands
This sounds very logical to me
Two Bridges Tump, Ayleford -MAP LINK
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, April 01, 2010, 17:42 (5429 days ago) @ rbaynton
http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName=g&...
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Two Bridges Tump, Ayleford -MAP LINK
by rbaynton , Friday, April 02, 2010, 08:57 (5428 days ago) @ slowhands
Couldn't get that link - is it me?
Two Bridges Tump, Ayleford -MAP LINK
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, April 02, 2010, 09:11 (5428 days ago) @ rbaynton
It works for me this morning :-)
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Ordnance Survey Map on our Web site
by admin , Forest of Dean, Friday, April 02, 2010, 09:18 (5428 days ago) @ rbaynton
Ordnance Survey Map are having a few problems with there servers, here is an email I received yesterday from them.
Dear Developers,
Due to increased demand on the OS OpenData web site, we have experienced a problem with our servers which is affecting several Ordnance Survey services, including OS OpenSpace.
In the mean time keep a track on our Twitter space OSOpenSpace_Svc
We are working to resolve this problem as quickly as possible and will update the twitter feed as soon as we have any more information.
Kind regards
We have an Ordnance Survey Map on our Web site which you can access from the Find a Location which is on the top menu bar of this page.
Just type in 'Two bridges' and it will show you the location of the place.
Ordnance Survey Map on our Web site
by rbaynton , Friday, April 02, 2010, 10:55 (5428 days ago) @ admin
Thanks David - all is explained !
Local Knowledge Sought - Two Bridges Tump
by unknown, Friday, April 02, 2010, 17:11 (5428 days ago) @ rbaynton
Have just looked at the Postal Address Book for South west (Year 2000)
Under the Cinderford section, the area of Soudley shows a property called "Tump House" with a postcode of GL14 2UB this should take you right to the doorstep.
Regards
Forest
Local Knowledge Sought - Two Bridges Tump
by rbaynton , Friday, April 02, 2010, 18:21 (5428 days ago) @ unknown
Thanks - I will pop it into the Sat Nav
R