Henry GURNEY 1770?- 1821 Kempley, parents & siblings (General)

by rossgurney, Monday, June 28, 2010, 10:35 (5339 days ago)

Henry GURNEY married Phebe Perkins 24 Oct 1799. He was buried 1821 Kempley

Can anyone help me link Henry Gurney to his parents and siblings please?

The FOD transcripts show his marriage in 1799 and entries for 7 children but in none of these is there any information about his parents or siblings. All but 2 of his children were baptised in Kempley, the others in Dymock. His death entry puts his age at 51 in 1821 which if accurate would put his birth around 1700


I have a copy of Abraham’s marriage certificate in which Henry is named as Abraham’s father, and residence of Abraham at the time of marriage: Kempley Green.
His children:
Esther,- bapt 1800 Kempley, FOD transcriptions
Ann, - bapt 1802 Kempley, FOD transcriptions
William, - bapt 1805 Dymock, FOD transcriptions
Charlotte, - bapt 1807 Kempley, FOD transcriptions
Eliza, - bapt 1810 Kempley, FOD transcriptions
Abraham, - bapt 1812 Kempley, FOD transcriptions
Mirna - bapt 1821 Dymock, FOD transcriptions

There is an entry in IGI (www.familysearch.org) recording nothing other than he was born around 1773 in Dymock and that he married Phoebe.

A letter from the Gloucestershire County Archivist, Brian Smith in 1979, reported three other children: George, Edward and Maria bapt in 1815, 1817 and 1821 resp. None of these however appear in the Forest of Dean transcriptions and I have been unable to find them in ancestry.com or IGI.

Henry and Phebe’s weddng was witnessed by a Lettice Brooke.


I have looked at other Gurney families in the Forest of Dean which might have been his and have identified the following. There was a family in Kempley whose parents were William and Hester and who married on 7 July 1759 – her residence at the time of marriage was Upton Bishop but he was from Kempley.
Their children – all baptised in Kempley were
1762, Will
1761, Letitia
1766, Joseph
1769, Jane
1774, Ann
1777, Betty
1779, Thomas
1782, Catherine
If Henry were one of their children and born around 1700 there would be space in this sequence after Jane or even before Joseph. Possible supporting evidence:
a. Henry’s first child was named Esther – perhaps after Hester? One of his own children was named Ann, perhaps after the Ann born in 1774.
b. Henry appears as witness to two marriages – one Anne and the other Betty – this could well have happened if they were his sisters.

Can anyone help me to identify Henry’s parents? (I post this from New Zealand, so cannot at this stage work in situ.

Henry GURNEY

by m p griffiths @, Monday, June 28, 2010, 13:02 (5339 days ago) @ rossgurney

previous thread(s) - search forum for more GURNEY info

http://www.forest-of-dean.com/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=7874

http://www.forest-of-dean.com/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=7954


FOD records have a burial at Kempley 1799 of William GURNEY age 66 on 1 June 1799 and his Will is listed on the Gloucestershire Records Office Genealogical Database.


CD info

Kempley St Edward

George - 18 June 1815, address Kempley Green - Henry (Labourer) & Phoebe GURNEY

Edward - 7 December 1817, Henry (labourer) & Phoebe


Dymock St Mary


Mima? - 28 January 1821 - address Kempley - Henry & Phoebe
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Search : Forest of Dean Inquests for:

George Henry GURNEY - 1901 Dymock age 90

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/inquests/


1891 Census, Dymock, Lower Farm
George GURNEY, Widower, age 83, formerly Ag. Lab. born Kempley


1881 Census, Dymock, Holwood Green

George GURNEY - age 76, Ag. Lab. born Kempley
Hannah GURNEY (wife) - age 56, Dymock
+ Sons, George 10, and William 8


1871 Census, Dymock, Holwood Green

George GURNEY - 59 - Labourer, born Kempley
Hannah GURNEY - 40 - born Dymock
Charles Mathew GARRATT - Son age 11 - born D (christened 4 April 1860 - Charles & Hannah GARRATT - Dymock)
Francis William GARRATT - Son age 9 - born D
Fanny GURNEY, age 5, Alice GURNEY 4, George Henry GURNEY, age 1 month
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1841 Census, Kempley
Kempley Green
Distgrict 27, page 2 of 4

Pheaby GURNEY - age 60 - born in County
William GURNEY - age 30 - ditto

(same District page 3 of 4)

John GORNY/GURNY, age 40 - not born in County
Mary - 40 - born in County
William 10 - not born in County
Jane 8 - not born in County
Ann - 6 not born in County
Henry - 4 - born in County
Thomas - 2 - born in County


1841 Kempley District 26 - page 2 of 4
Fishpool

James GURNEY - 81 - ag. lab - not born in County
Elizabeth GURNEY - 78 - born in County


1851 Census, Kempley District 2
Fishpool

GURNEY

John -54 Farm Labourer, born Upton Bishop, Hereford
Mary - 52 - Dymock. Glos
William - 19 - born Upton Bishop, Hereford
Jane Elizabeth GURNEY - daughter age - 17 - visitor, born Upton Bishop
Henry - 14 - born Kempley
George - 8


1851 Census, Kempley
Kempley Green

William GURNEY - unmarried age 51, Farm Labourer, born Kempley
Abraham GURNEY - unmarried, brother age 45 - born ditto

Henry GURNEY

by rossgurney, Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 03:10 (5339 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Thank you m p Griffiths for all of that information - I have some of it already - the rest unfortunately does not appear relevant.
THere seems to have been 2 George Henry GURNEYs in Dymock - not clear what the relationship between them was. It is clear though that neither is the Henry that I am looking for - they are too recent.
Am following up on the will for William in the Gloucestershire CC Archives in the hope that it might mention Henry.
THe final two, WIll and Abraham are certain part of my tree - espec Abraham.
Many thanks for your help
Ross

Henry GURNEY 1770?- 1821 Kempley, parents & siblings

by SueHampshire, Wednesday, August 04, 2010, 17:28 (5302 days ago) @ rossgurney

I am looking for this too. My grandmother was Beatrice Gurney b. 1887. She is a decendant of John Gurney, son of Abraham b.1812 who married Catherine Cummins in 1851.
Abraham's father was Henry b.1769. Abraham died in 1882 aged 73 and his address is shown as Kempley Green.
By 1891 John was a policeman and had moved to Lancashire.

SueHampshire

Henry GURNEY 1770?- 1821 Kempley, parents & siblings

by rossgurney, Sunday, August 08, 2010, 10:28 (5298 days ago) @ SueHampshire

Hello SueHampshire - glad to 'meet' a fellow descendant! I am thinking that either his birth was not registered, registered under a different name or he was born in another area such as Somerset (since the Norman settlers from Gournay settled there. Living in NZ, it is difficult to know where to start - any ideas?

Phebe GURNEY nee PERKINS 1777- 1847 Kempley,

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, August 08, 2010, 12:18 (5298 days ago) @ rossgurney

Year: 1847
Month: Dec
Day: 15
Surname: GURNEY
Forenames: Phebe
Residence: Kempley Green
Age_at_death: 71
Officiating_Minister: W Servante
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P188 IN 1/18
Page_No: 18
Parish_Chapel: Kempley


1841
Pheaby Gurney abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Kempley, Gloucestershire

Year: 1812
Month: Oct
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: GURNEY
Child_Forenames: Abraham
Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Phebe
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P188 IN 1/5
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Kempley

Year: 1799
Month: Oct
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: GURNEY
Grooms_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Kempley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: PERKINS
Brides_Forenames: Phebe
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Kempley
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 6th 13th & 20th
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: The mark of Lettice Brooke
Witness_2: John Boyam Clarek
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Jenkins Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P188 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 20
Parish_Chapel: Kempley


Year: 1777
Month: Jun
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: PERKINS
Child_Forenames: Phebe
Fathers_Forenames: Francis
Mothers_Forenames: Molly
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P188 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 11
Parish_Chapel: Kempley

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