Robinsons in Little Dean

Hello,
I wonder if anyone else is researching the family of Philip Robinson son of John and Jane, born about 1744 in Little Dean.
Philip married Ann, they had twelve children.

Edward Robinson born 1791 was my ancestor.
Edward and one brother operated a paper mill in Overbury,Worcestershire.

Would love to hear from anyone searching this family,
Regards,
Ronda.

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Hi Rhonda, I have only just seen your message! (7 years on!) I am researching ROBINSONS in Ruardean, Parkend, Cinderford, North Nibley, East Dean, Westbury on Severn, and Awre - and possibly Littledean. My Robinsons are so far headed by a Matthew ROBINSON, (Labourer), born in North nibley abt 1800 - 1805, married to Elizabeth, born in 1814 in Stinchcombe, Gloucestershire. Most of his male descendents were coal miners.

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"Ronda" hasn't been on the board for a while.

1841 Viney Hill
Matthew Robinson 35
Elizabeth Robinson 25
William Robinson 6
Alvan Robinson 4
Ann Robinson 2

1851
Mathew Robinson abt 1803 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Robinson abt 1814 Slinskam, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hulvan Robinson abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Robinson abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Robinson abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sam (tom) Robinson abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Mathew Robinson abt 1806 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Robinson abt 1811 Stinchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Robinson abt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Robinson abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Isaac Robinson abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Mary Robinson abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Ann Robinson abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Coalway Lane End
Mathew Robinson 71
Elizabeth Robinson 56
Mary Alic Robinson 16

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*** Matthew ROBERTSON christened 24 March 1805 - at North Nibley - parents Matthew & Ester ???
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GloucestershireBDM

Birth Registration: ROBINSON - mother's maiden name CLUTTERBUCK

Sarah Ann - 1839 - FOD - Westbury on Severn, Newnham
George - 1841 - ditto
Thomas - 1842 - ditto
Hannah - 1844 - ditto
Alice - 1846 - FOD - Monmouth, Coleford
Tom - 1848 - ditto
Isaac - 1852 - FOD - Westbury on Severn, Newnham

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Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837

Matthew ROBINSON - married Elizabeth CLUTTERBUCK - North Nibley - 24 November 1833

William ROBINSON - married Sarah BENNET - North Nibley - 10 February 1834

just one CLUTTERBUCK marriage at North Nibley and only two male ROBINSON marriages

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Gloucestershire Baptism Index

William - christened at North Nibley - 14 September 1834 - parents Matthew (labourer) and Elizabeth

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Gloucestershire Death Index

a number of ROBINSON's deaths 1800-1837 - adults and children

only one CLUTTERBUCK

Ann - 5 October 1823 age 29

??? Baptism at Nibley: 22 May 1814 - Elizabeth CLUTTERBUCK : parents James (Weaver) & Ann

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If you go into this website:

http://www.allthecotswolds.com/

and use the search button for North Nibley

there are births/marriages/deaths listed (inc Matthew ROBERTSON - parents Matthew & Ester

24 March 1811 - Stephen RUDGE ROBINSON - parents Matthew & Hester

??? and from these records

Matthew ROBERTON married Esther SPARKS - 9 May 1791

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1841 North Nibley
Stephen ROBBINSON - 30
Matthew - 70
Elizabeth - 55
Zipoahola? 15
Caroline - 11
William - 31

etc etc

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? Gloucestershire Burial Index

Matthew ROBINSON - 13 September 1830 age 52, Stroud St Lawrence
cause of death given other details.

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Thank you so much for all your helpful information.

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Hi -

Just a quick note to express my interest in this thread: I'm descended from the "other" North Nibley Robinson marriage mentioned, William Robinson & Sarah Bennet (1834). Interestingly, Sarah and a daughter Maria (born Ross on Wye, 1835)were living in Little Dean in 1841. I don't know what became of William after Maria's birth, but he was the son of James Robinson and Ann Richards and was born 1811 in North Nibley.

It's been interesting to see the possible connection between the 1803 Matthew Robinson and his older namesake (who, it would seem, married first Esther Sparks and later Elizabeth Clutterbuck). I'd only known of a connection of the older M.R. to my tree so far.

Best,
Rebecca

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There is a William ROBINSON Widr 54 - Ag. Lab - born Gloucestershire Forest of Dean on the 1861 Census for Wednesbury, Staffordshire. Again on the 1871 Census, Staffordshire, St Bartholmew - William ROBINSON - age 62 - Labourer, born Gloucestershire - could this possibly be him - as Sarah states she is married on the census returns.

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Those are certainly possibilities, though obviously further corroboration would be needed. Thanks for mentioning those census details.

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Hallo - I am very new to this site. It is amazing, and everyone is so kind and helpful. Thank you so much for all your information.

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Hi and welcome to this great website and forum.
I guess from your post you've used this websites PRs to help your researches, and you know Matthew's burial which I've posted below, for completeness. I see on LDS he's clear in the Census's which I suspect you know too, so wont' repeat them all. However I think you dont have a Baptism for him; I was wondering if you have any clues as to Matthews parents names ?

From LDS this is a POSSIBILITY, do the parents name tie in, perhaps they appear in the later Census, hopefully nearby to Matthew ???. Turkdean isn't too far from Nibley, altho of course Matthew is not a rare name and it seems to have been used quite a lot thro the Robinson line, so...???

Just a thought..hope it helps.

"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975,"
Name: Matthew Robertson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Sep 1802
Baptism/Christening Place: TURKDEAN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Robertson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Susannah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03261-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 427795
Reference Number:

LATER UPDATE:

These are all the Matthew Robinsons listed within the Glos FHS 1851 Census cd: so the above Baptism is NOT your man, sorry, maybe this info is usefull anyhow if only as part of the elimination process....

1974 1851 CENSUS HO107/1974 FF.0136 - 0149 ED.9 & 12 DEERHURST 1
Piece: 1974 Folio: 0148 Schedule: 070
Address: Deerhurst Walton

ROBINSON Mathew HD M 50 Farm Labourer GLS Tukk Dean [Turkdean] (c1801)
ROBINSON Sarah WI M 46 Farm Labourer GLS Camesford[?] (c1805)
ROBINSON William SO U 16 Farm Labourer GLS Yanworth (c1835)
ROBINSON Emma DA U 4 Scholar GLS Deerhurst (c1847)
(as per LDS Baptism above)

Also on cd, same general area, also not in Dean of course

1958 1851 CENSUS HO107/1958 FF.0073 - 0085 ED.2C WOTTON UNDER EDGE
Piece: 1958 Folio: 0076 Schedule: 002
Address: Waterly Bottom

ROBINSON Matthew HD M 21 Labourer GLS North Nibley (c1830)
ROBINSON Jane WI M 21 - HEF St.Margarets (c1830)
ROBINSON George SO - 1 - GLS North Nibley (c1850)

Also NOT your Matthew, but proves the family & family name was prevalent in the Nibley area.

As Slowhands has shown, THIS is your Matthew:

2444 1851 CENSUS HO107/2444 FF.0154-0168 ED.5A COLEFORD 1
Piece: 2444 Folio: 0163 Schedule: 049
Address: Parkend

ROBINSON Mathew HD M 48 Labourer GLS North Nibley (c1803)
ROBINSON Elizabeth WI M 37 Labourer's Wife GLS Stenskam [Stinchcombe?] (c1814)
ROBINSON Halvan(?) SO U 14 Coal Miner GLS East Dean (c1837)
ROBINSON Sarah A. DA U 11 - GLS East Dean (c1840)
ROBINSON Alice DA - 4 - GLS West Dean (c1847)
ROBINSON Sam SO - 2 - GLS West Dean (c1849)

HOWEVER, this is all what I'm sure you already know, with no hint (yet) of Matthew's Baptism, but thought worth looking up just in case.

Wills
Have you checked the Wills section of this FoD site ?. There are several Robinsons listed from 1859 onwards including William presumably as per the 1841 Viney Hill Census shown earlier, worth a look perhaps ?
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/?Wills_Index

Also the Glos Archives website lists Wills in North Nibley, so perhaps Matthews parents, from 1799 onwards.
eg Matthew Robinson, Yeoman North Nibley, March 1846
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Results.aspx

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Hallo Jeff,
I am completely new to this site. it is amazing, isn't it? I am very grateful for your kind help and support. I have just sent for the birth certificate of Elizabeth (nee Clutterbuck) and Matthew Robinson's son TOM, who was born in West Dean, Coleford, on 24th December 1848. It has now returned to me. The birth was actually registered in the Monmouth district on 14th January 1849. Their on-line census records mention a "Sam" who was born to them around that time. I think that must be a mis-transcription from the very original census returns! According to this birth certificate - father, Mattthew, was illiterate! (He signed his name with an "X".) Presumably Elizabeth was illiterate also - so the third party filling in their original census returns on their behalf may have misheard them, and thought they said their young son was "Sam" instead of "Tom". My husband has descended from Tom Robinson!

Thanks again for your help.

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Had a look at the actual 1851 census - The Enumerator wrote his S's very 'oddly' - the tail of the S reaches to the top - but it does appear to be Sam..... and should be Tom - as he is with Mathew and Ann on the 1861 census - West Dean

Coalway Lane End

Mathew - 55 - born North Nibley
Ann - 50 -born Stinchcombe, Glos
Ann - 21
Thomas - 12
Isaac - 10
Alice Mary - 7
Emily Ann - grand-daughter - 3 months.

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Thanks I have only just seen your message almost two years on.
It appears we are descended from different Robinson families, mine were Maltsters and Land Agents.
Regards,
Ronda

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