Finding Step Kin- Albert Roberts-Lilly Florence Phillips

Hello there,

After some great and highly appreciated help I received from you FOD Folk over the weekend I am hoping someone can help me once again by helping by connecting a Step Cousins kin to a recently found first Cousin from the Forest please?

What I am hoping for is to know more about Albert Roberts and Lilly Florence Phillips plus their parentage if possible please?

Albert Roberts married a Lilly Florence Phillips Bet.Oct–Dec 1906 at Westbury on Severn and they last lived at Yew Tree Patch, Glencoe Lane, Plump Hill, Nr. Mitcheldean, Glos from info I have uncovered thus far but there are so few leads yet to uncover more I am finding..

Their children were as follows:
"Frank" Albert Roberts B: abt 1910, Westbury on Severn
Wilfred "Trevor" Roberts b: Bet. Jul–Sep 1911 Westbury on Severn
Dorothy A Roberts B: Bet. Jan–Mar 1913 Westbury on Severn
Myrtle I Roberts B:Bet. Jan–Mar 1915 Westbury on Severn
Gladys Ivy Roberts B:Bet Jul-Sep 1916 ?
Eric Dennis Roberts B:Bet. Jul–Sep 1918 Westbury on Severn
Ivor J Roberts B:Bet. Jul–Sep 1921 Westbury on Severn
Lewis Roberts B:Bet. Apr–Jun 1925 Westbury on Severn
Lilian May Roberts B:07 Apr 1909 Westbury on Severn dist

Any and all help and suggestion or guidance greatly appreciated with this project to reconnect a family please?

Cheers Jim Patterson

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If you check the Parish Records on this site - to see what information is available - quickly by searching these records, the Marriage of Albert Roberts and Lilly Florence Phillips has been transcribed i.e. at Drybrook 22 December 1906 - giving details of their parents etc.

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Many thanks MP, I really appreciate the heads up on locating the record concerned. Its been a long while since I have looked at this great site, one of the best in Genealogy circles but alas there is a learning curve and my brain needs boot to get it focussed once in a while:-)lol

Cheers and Happy Hunting

Jim

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(this tree will have quite a few branches...)

1901 Census

Plump Hill

ROBERTS

Tom - 56 - General Labourer, born Glos. East Dean
Hannah - 54 - born Hereford, Linton
Albert - 20 - Coal Miner Loader & Hewer, born Glos East Dean
Frank A - 15 - CoalMiner, Belt boy, below ground
Emily - 12

1891 Census

Plump Hill

Tom ROBERTS - 46 - Iron Miner (all born East Dean)
Hannah ROBERTS- 45
John MALSOM, Boarder, age 17
Albert ROBERTS - 12
Frank ROBERTS 9
Emily ROBERTS 6

FOD records - Marriage at Cinderford St John

25 December 1880

Tom ROBERTS - age 34 (Widower) Labourer of Cinderford
father: Thomas ROBERTS (labourer)

married

Anna MALSON - age 35, Widow of Cinderford

Father's name: Benjamin CLUTTERBUCK (labourer)

by banns

witnesses: Ann and Thomas MEREDITH

1881 Census - Plump Hill

ROBERTS

Tom - 36 - Labourer, born East Dean
(transcribed as Diane) - 34 - born Linton, Herefordshire
Alice - 13 (on the 1871 census as Alice MALSON age 3)
Frederick - 10 (on the 1871 census as Frederick MALSON age 8 months)
John - 7 (John MALSON - 1891 census)
Livina - 11 **
George - 9

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1871 Census - Glos. East Dean - Plump Hill

Tom ROBERTS - 27 - all born East Dean
Selina - 27
Lavina - 1 ** (FOD records - Abenhall 27 February 1870 - Lavinia - parents Tom/Selina

also FOD records, Anne 7 January 1877 - Drybrook - parents Tom/Selina)

? FOD records, burial at Drybrook - 29 May 1875

Selina ROBERTS age 30 - address Edge Hill

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FOD records - Marriage at Aston Ingham - 12 April 1868

Thomas ROBERTS (Bachelor) - occupation, Wood Collier - residence: Aston Ingham

Grooms Father : Thomas ROBERTS, Wood Collier

married

Salina SYSYM - of age, Spinster of Aston Ingham

Brides Father's Surname: SISUM - John, Chark Carrier

witnesses: Joseph HOLFORD and mark of Anne HOLFORD

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re: Selina SYSUM (1st wife of Thomas ROBERTS)

links on this forum - previous threads inc

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=22025

1861 Census, Aston Ingham
May Hill

John SYSUM - 64 - Donkey Driver - age 64, born Hereford, Aston
Maria SYSUM - 53 - born Glos. Westbury
Selina SYSUM - 13 - born Hereford, Aston
Wm SYSUM - 5 - born ditto
Charles VICK? - son-in-law, age 32, born Glos. Lea
E VICK - wife - age 29 - Hereford, Aston
E VICK - 2 months - grandson - born Hereford, Aston

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Tom Roberts (2nd wife - Widow Anna MALSON nee CLUTTERBUCK, father Benjamin - 25 December 1880)

again previous threads inc:

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=9399

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Marriage on FOD records at Aston Ingham - 13 August 1866

George MALSOM - of age, Bachelor, of Aston Ingham
father: John MALSOM - Labourer

married

Hannah CLUTTERBUCK - under age, Spinster of Aston Ingham
father: Benjamin CLUTTERBUCK - labourer

witnesses: Emma DUFTON and mark of Joseph MERRY

1871 Census, East Dean
The Plump

Geo MALSON - Mar - 39, Iron Miner, born Abbenhall, Gls'shire
Hannan MALSON - age 25, born Herefordshire, Lea Bailey
Alice MALSON - 3 - born Glos. East Dean
Frederick MALSON - son - age 8 months
Sarah MALSON, mother - W - age 77, born Gloucestershire, Gloucester
Maria MALSONS - wife W - 32 Laundress - born Glos. Longhope
Charles MALSON - son - 12 - born East Dean
Martha MALSON - daughter - age 7 - born East Dean
May MALSONS - mother - widow age 75, born Glos. Ruardean

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?1861 Census, Glos. Mitcheldean
Cox's Lane

Samuel PARKS - 46 - born Staffs West Bromwich
Hannah PARKS - 38 - born Herefordshire, Linton
Hannah CLUTTERBUCK - Niece - age 14, born Herefordshire, Lea Bailey

1851 Census, Glos. Ruardean

Morse Lane

CLUTTERBUCK

Benjamin - 59 - General Labourer, born Glos. Longhope
Selina - 30 - born Newent
William - 8 - born Aston Ingham
Hannah - 6 - born Glos. Lea Hamlet
Ellen - 3
Mary - 7 months.

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Wow, I went out for a day and come back to tons of new Info:-) lol

I cannot thanks you enough MP, your help has put a smile on my face as well as my step cousin I am attempting to help out:-) Amazing, Forest Folk or connected ones are truly the best:-)

I will over the next few days wade through all the bits and pieces and pass along all the details in a mini tree for my cousin to leave her daughter as per her wishes.

I am eternally Grateful to you MP and the site:-)

Jim Patterson

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Albert ROBERTS (age 25) married Lilly Florence ROBERTS (age 21) (father: James PHILLIPS, Collier) at Drybrook - 22 December 1906

witnesses: Lewis PHILLIPS and mark of Agnes TAYLOR

1911 Census - Plump Hill, Near Mitcheldean

Albert ROBERTS - married 4 years, age 30, Collier Hewer, below ground, born Gloucester East Dean
Lilly ROBERTS - age 25 - born Gloucester East Dean
Lewis PHILLIPS - single boarder, age 23, Collier Hewer below ground, born Gloucester East Dean
Albert Frank ROBERTS, son age 3 - born Gloucester East Dean
May Lilly ROBERTS, age 1 - born Gloucester East Dean

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1901 Census, East Dean, Plump Hill

PHILLIPS

James - 40 - Coal Hewer, born Herefordshire, Little Birch
Elizabeth - 37 - born Herefordshire, Hope Mansell
Lily - 15 - born Glos. East Dean
Frances - 11
Ada - 6
Mabel - 3
Ida - 1 day

1891 Census, Glos. East Dean
Wigpool

James PHILLIPS - 30, Coal Miner, born Herefordshire, Little Birch
Eliza - 27, born Hereford, Hope Mansel
Eliza - 7 - born Glos East Dean
Lilly - 5 - born Glos. East Dean *******
Louis - 3 - born Yorkshire, Woodhouse
Frances - 1 - born East Dean ***

If you use the Advance Search for children of James and Elizabeth PHILLIPS at Drybrook - these include:::

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Flora Lily PHILLIPS, 23 August 1885 - parents as above - address Wigpool

Frances Maud PHILLIPS, parents James (Coal Miner) and Elizabeth

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As the adddress: is Wigpool and ages seems O.K. - this could be James & Elizabeth's marriage at Drybrook- 28 January 1883 (FOD records)

James PHILLIPS (age 22) - bachelor, Coal Miner, address: Wigpool
father: John PHILLIPS - labourer

married

Elizabeth JAMES - age 18 - Spinster - of Bailey Hill

father: Theophilus JAMES - labourer

by banns

mark of Theophilus JAMES and Eliza ASKELL

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1881 Census, East Dean

PHILLIPS

John - 58 - Ag. Lab. born Kings Caple
Sarah Ann - 51 - born Minchinhampton
James - 20 - Little Birch (husband of Elizabeth JAMES)
Arthur A - 15 - born Chapple Surups (transcribed as)
Richard - 13 - born ditto

1871 Census, Glos. East Dean, New Town

PHILLIPS

John - 47 - Ag. Lab. born Hereford, Kings Caple
Sarah Ann - 39 - born Glos. Minchinhampton
George - 19 - born, Hereford (Homewithey - transcribed as)
Thomas - 18 - born Hereford, Kings Caple
James - 10 - born Little Birch
Arthur - 8 - born Hereford, Hentland
Richard - 11 - born ditto
Frederick - 1 month - born East Dean

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? ages seem to tie up

1861 Census, Herefordshire, Much Dewchurch

Lowe Road

PHILLIPS

John - 38 - Ag. Lab. born Herefordshire, N/K
Sarah A - 31 - born Glos. N/K
George J - age 10 - born Herefordshire, Pencoyd *
Thomas - 8 - - born Herefordshire, Langarren
James - 7 months, born Herefordshire, Langarren

FreeBDM: Birth A/M/J Qtr 1851 - Ross District: George John PHILLIPS

? Marriage : J/A/S - 1858 - Ross District: John PHILLIPS - listed is a Sarah DAVIS

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? 1841 Census, Herefordshire, Kings Caple

John PHILIPS - age 20, Ag. Lab

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Elizabeth PHILLIPS (wife of James) nee JAMES - born Hope Mansell, father: Theophilus JAMES - (as marriage certificate)

1871 Census, East Dean

JAMES

Theophilus - 55 - born East Dean
Eliza - 54 - born East Dean
Charles - 21 - born East Dean
Slyvia - 14 - born East Dean
Elizabeth - 6 - born Hope Mansell, Herefordshire

Using the Advance search for children of Theophilus and Eliza JAMES - there is

1855 - Slyvia - Chapel: Abenhall

1849 - Charles - Chapel: Lea

1862 - Anne Eliza - Chapel: Hope Mansell

1864 - James - Chapel: Hope Mansell

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1861 Census, Hope Mansell
Horn Hill

JAMES

Theophelius - 41 - Farm Carter, born East Dean
Eliza - 40 - born Glos. Lea
Charles - 11 - born East Dean
Silvea - 5 - born East Dean

and

George JAMES - father - age 75, Ag.Lab. born Herefordshire, Weston

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1851 Census, East Dean
Lea Bailey

JAMES

Theophelius - 33 - born Dean Forest
Eliza - 32 - born Weston Under Penyard, Herefordshire
Elizabeth - 5 - born ditto
Charles - 1 - born East Dean

1841 Census, Herefordshire, Aston Ingham
Hill Farm

JAMES

George - age 50
Anne - 56
Theophilus - 18

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FOD records

Baptism - Mitcheldean Congregational - 11 January 1818

Theophilus JAMES - parents George & Ann

again, using the Advance Search, there are siblings christened at Mitcheldean Congregation and Hope Mansell

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Many thanks to all for your considerable help in this post. I will be away from PC for a while now as the unforeseen just occurred and I must deal with family crisis for next week or two sadly..

Take care all and happy hunting you great folks

Jim

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Name: Frank Albert Roberts
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1907
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 274

Name: Lilian May Roberts
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 279

1911
ROBERTS ALBERT M 1881 30 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
ROBERTS LILLY F 1886 25 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
ROBERTS ALFART FRANK M 1908 3 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
ROBERTS MAY LILLY F 1910 1 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

Name: Wilfred T Roberts
Mother's Maiden Name: Phillips
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 520

Name: Dorothy A Roberts
Mother's Maiden Name: Phillips
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 494

Name: Lloyd Roberts
Mother's Maiden Name: Phillips
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1913
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 536

Name: Myrtle I Roberts
Mother's Maiden Name: Phillips
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1915
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 499

Name: Gladys I Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Phillips
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district: Westbury S
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 483

Name: Eric D Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Phillips
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1918
Registration district: Westbury S
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 409

Name: Ivor J Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Phillips
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Westbury S.
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 533

Name: Lewis Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Phillips
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1925
Registration district: Westbury S
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 464

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