Charles Brain 1871 (General)

by jimashton , Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:46 (4996 days ago) @ unknown

Peter

Be wary that you have the correct Charles Brain, you say born 1871. I have the Charles Brain that married Amelia Meek in my Family Tree,he was the son of John Brain 1832 & Belinda Harris 1836. This Charles Brain was baptised 22 Aug 1869. I also have another Charles Brain born 1871 who was the son of John Brain 1834 & Elizabeth Harrison 1836 :

1881 Census
Dwelling:
Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341609 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2522 Folio 11 Page 16
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John BRAIN M 46 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Elizabeth BRAIN M 44 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Mary A. BRAIN U 15 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daur
Charles BRAIN 10 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Albert BRAIN 6 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Suchanah BRAIN 2 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daur
Harriett HARRISON 38 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Sister

In regards to other queries in this thread. George Thomas Meek 1848 who married Hannah Barnard 1844 parents of Amelia Meek 1874 was the son of Thomas Meek 1819 & Elizabeth Boughton 1819.

George Thomas Meek 1848 was born in Prison :

Prison Records Feb.1848
Thomas Meek. No,. 2309 from Mitcheldean aged 26, height
5ft.6. hair lt.brown grey eyes, visage long, fresh complexion.
Charged with feloniously receicving at East Dean 16 Feb.1848 a quantity of mutton, the property of Cornelius MARFELL. Found not Guilty.
His is a native of M/Dean, single worker for Mr. Thos Bennett for 16 yrs but of late working for himself. Conduct Good.

Glos.Quarter Sessions Feb.18 1848 Thos Meek not guilty, so obviously released. (offence took place Feb.16.1848).

Elizabeth Boughton exactly the same.

20 days later
Mitcheldean P.Records Feb.18 1848 BAP. Thomas George
son of Elizabeth Boughton, abode, Glos County Prison, by Asst. Chaplain ? Heaton (and noted according to certificate).
So seems Eliz MAY have re-offended and was back inside.

Thomas Meek 1819 was baptised 11 Apr 1819 Drybrook. Census data shows how unreliable indicated ages are :

1851 Lea Bailey
Thomas Meek abt 1825 Lea Barley, Head . woodcutter
Elizabeth Meek abt 1824 Mitcheldean, Wife
Edmund Meek abt 1850 East Dean, Son
George Meek abt 1848 Mitcheldean, Son
James Boughton abt 1844 Westbury On Severn, Nephew {SON illegitimate]

1861 Census East Dean Harry hill
Thomas Meek 41 Coal Miner Lea
Elizabeth 41 Mitcheldean
George 13 Coal Miner East Dean
John 10 East Dean
Sarah 8 East Dean
Elizabeth 4 East Dean
Mary 2 East Dean
William 4 mths East Dean

1871 Census East Dean Harry hill
Thomas Meek 49 Collier Miner Bailey Hill
Elizabeth 40 Mitcheldean
Elizabeth 15 Lea Bailey
Mary 13 Lea Bailey
William 11 Lea Bailey
Charlotte 9 Drybrook
Caroline 6 Drybrook

1881 Census
Dwelling: Factory Row
Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341609 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2522 Folio 95 Page 40
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thos. MEEK M 50 M Bailey Hill, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Collier
Elizth. MEEK M 51 F Mitcheldean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Elizth. MEEK U 25 F Drybrook, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: No Occupation
Charlotte MEEK U 21 F Drybrook, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Works At Tin Works
Caroline MEEK U 19 F Drybrook, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Works At Tin Works
Edwin MEEK 6 M Cinderford, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daurs Child
Occ: Scholar
Mary MEEK 3 F Cinderford, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daurs Child
Eliza MEEK 1 F Cinderford, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daurs Child
William MEEK 2 m M Cinderford, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daurs Child

1891 Census Upper Bilson
Thomas Mak abt 1817 Lea Bailey Head
Elizabeth Mak abt 1818 Mitcheldred, Wife
A Davis Mak abt 1817 Vopes Hill, Glos Lodger
William Mak abt 1881 Cinderford, Grandson
Charles Mak abt 1861 Rose, Herefordshire, Cousin

To indicate that the Charles Brain who married Amelia Meek is indeed the son of John Brain & Belinda Harris; on the 1901 Census entry, his parents John Brain & Belinda
were next door and next door again was his brother Amos Brain 1867. A further "clue" now that Dai Jones has shown the additional children on the 1911 Census including Flower. John Brain 1832 & Belinda Harris 1836 had a son Flower born 1872.

To add to the confusion, I also have a Charles Brain 1873 !! Son of Charles Brain 1839 (son of Charles)& Mary Apperley 1843

Dai could you post the 1911 Census entry for Charles Brain 1869 please.

Jim Ashton