St. Arvans marriage records/Hopkins (General)
by mrsbruso 
, Sunday, March 04, 2012, 02:21 (4698 days ago)
Baptisms and burials are documented at St. Arvans much earlier than marriages. Can someone tell me in which parish people from St. Arvans would have been married prior to the date the marriage registers begin?
On several census' James Hopkins (born abt. 1775) lists his birthplace as St. Arvans, but there is no record of his having been baptised there. By the time of his marriage (about 1804 if I remember correctly) he is living in Trelleck, which is where his marriage was registered. (James Hopkins to Mary/Margaret Pritchard).
It is possible, although it is early days yet, his parents are James Hopkins, c. 1733 and Ann James c. 1722(?), married at Llandenny 1 Nov 1759. If these are indeed his parents, he was christened at Llandenny (James James Hopkins, 16 Feb 1775, with siblings Elizabeth James Hopkins, 1 Oct 1776 and John James Hopkins, 23 Aug 1782.) This doesn't account for another probable sibling, William Hopkins, c approx 1777, later also living in Trelleck.
Thanks.
Sandra
I was a little surprised to see how little the distance is between all the places my family called home, with only 36 miles separating Blakeney from Garndiffaith.
St. Arvans marriage records
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, March 04, 2012, 08:59 (4698 days ago) @ mrsbruso
Baptisms and burials are documented at St. Arvans much earlier than marriages. Can someone tell me in which parish people from St. Arvans would have been married prior to the date the marriage registers begin?
St Arvans marriage records should span 1683-1917 at the Gwent Momouthshire archives
Its is possible that they have not been transcribed/ made available here yet, only from 1837 ish (?)...
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James HOPKINS St Arvans circa 1775/80
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, March 04, 2012, 09:04 (4698 days ago) @ mrsbruso
On several census' James Hopkins (born abt. 1775) lists his birthplace as St. Arvans, but there is no record of his having been baptised there. By the time of his marriage (about 1804 if I remember correctly) he is living in Trelleck, which is where his marriage was registered. (James Hopkins to Mary/Margaret Pritchard).
There is an illegit. James HOPKINS baptised at St Arvans in 1780
Year: 1780
Month: Feb
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: HOPKINS
Child_Forenames: Jas
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: St Arvans
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: illegit
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: St Arvans Monmouth
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
James HOPKINS St Arvans circa 1775/80
by mrsbruso , Monday, March 05, 2012, 01:15 (4697 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks, S.
That's a possibility . . . although his birthyear stays remarkably constant across three census collections ('41, 51, 61) at 1775/76. Nothing to say that the 1780 is an infant baptism though,, so I can't rule it out.
The Trelleck connection is solid, Llandenny less so. Although, the Llandenny Hopkins family has two "Temperance Hopkins" girls, and James and Margaret (nee Pritchard) name one of their daughters Temperance as well (c. 5 March 1809 at Trelleck). Was Temperance a popular name at the time? I also discovered the Charlotte living with them in 1840 is their base born grandchild, daughter of their eldest daughter Esther (22 April 1804). Some of the baptisms in Trellck weren't in the register transcriptions but only in the BTs.
They also have two nephews living with them, William James, aged 10 in 1840, and James Jones, aged 10, born Trelleck Grange in 1851. The nephew, William James might support the Anne James as Mum theory, but the 1841 census doesn't list place of birth more specifically than county, and it's Monmouthshire no matter how you look at it. I haven't been able to untangle that yet. Tantalizing clues, no immediate, clear conclusion.
I was surprised to see Llandenny crop up, only because the other side of my family (the Vinings) also had connections to Llandenny, as apparently do the Cadogans. Three sides of a family which don't intersect for another fifty years, and in another place. Small world.