1911 Census, Llandogo, Monmouthshire - Upper Manor, Whitebrook Mon - Penyvan

JOHNS

William - age 60 - labourer (general) - married 32 years, - 16 children born alive, 9 living - 7 dead, born Dudley, Staffordshire
Eliza - 56 - born Ledbury, Hereford
Comfort - 26 - born Cinderford
Henry - 18 - born Cinderford
King - 15 - born Kings Thorne
Lizzie - 16 - born Kings Thorne
Matilda - 15
Mark - 12

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1901 Census, Staunton, Glos

Travelling Van on Waste Ground

JOHNS

William 50 Own Lands, General Labourer, born Stafford, Dudley (c 1851)
Eliza - 46 - born Worcester Bramles?
William - son - 19 - General labourer, born Kent Osten Den
Comfort - daughter - 15 - born Glos. Mitcheldean
Davy - son - 14 - born Glos. Cinderford
Sarah - daughter - 11 - born Glos. Cinderford
Henry - son - 10 born Glos. Cinderford
Elizabeth - daughter - 8 - born Hereford, Tarrinton?
King JOHNS - son - 4 - born Hereford, Kings Thorn
Matilda - daughter - 4 - born Hereford, King Thorn
Mark - son - 2 - born Hereford, Rudgway South

1911 Census, Monmouthshire, Mathern? Chepstow

Gipsy Van

JOHNS

Wm 29 - Married - occasional labourer, born Osbo...Dea.... Kent
Esther - 29 - married 9 years, 4 children born alive, 4 alive - born Hereford (married c1902)
Wm - 8 - born Glos. Coleford
Maisey - 6 - born Mon. Upper Monnow
Leorono (Leonard FOD records) - son - 4 - born Glos. Coleford
Fred - 2 - born Mon. Upper Monnow

next door in a Gipsy Van

JOHNS

David - 24 occasional fruit picker, born Glos. FOD
Harriet - 23 - married 4 years - 2 children born alive - two living - born N/K. (married c1907)
Amelia - 4 - born Mon Upper Monnow
Esther - 2 - born Mon Upper Monnow

just two vans together, in between Alfred HAWKES a farmer at Broadwell Farm, and an Innkeeper with his family

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previous thread - link to Romany website....

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=33889