PRICE/CHILDS or CHILES/POWELL/SMITH (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, June 11, 2016, 01:29 (3167 days ago) @ Bantamweight

Thank you Mike, It's all coming together now. Poor Martha, she had some bad luck in later life as well. I'm very pleased to have found her family at last.

Now if only I could find her burial. I think she probably attended a Baptist Chapel near her home in Williamstown, Rhondda and I think her husband and son were also buried somewhere where records no longer exist. At least I know where she came from now :)

Hi B,
I'm sure you already know the following later records for Martha, which I think are correct(?), but posting them may help us find the Burials you're searching for.

1901 England Census, Berry Hill, Glos.

Name Relation to Head Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
John Hawkins Head 32 1869 Male Coalhewer. Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
Martha Hawkins Wife 34 1867 Female Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
Fredrick John Hawkins Son 9 1892 Male Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
William Hawkins Son 5 1896 Male Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
David Louis Hawkins Son 2 1899 Male Coleford, Gloucestershire, England

Ancestry Wills Probate calender shows "John Hawkins of 21 Edmondestown nr Penygraig Glam, collier died 7 May 1902 at Upper Colliery Cymmer, leaving £33 to widow Martha".

As you know Pen-y-Graig is next to Williamstown, I lived at nearby Porth for the final year of my studies at Polytechnic nr Pontypridd.
http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/GlamEast/Cymmer.htm

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http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llantrisant/BethabaraBaptist
http://www.southwalesbaptistassociation.org.uk/locator/rhondda-cynon-taff/bethabara-bap...
https://cosmictigger.wordpress.com/tag/williamstown/
and many more sites reference this Church, hopefully someone somewhere has Burial Records ?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)
BELCHER Henry John Pontypridd 11a 755
HAWKINS Martha Pontypridd 11a 755

1911 Census, six room dwelling at 65 Edmondestown Penygraig.
Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country Address
Mrs Martha Belcher Wife 1868 43 Married 5 years. Female Married Gloucestershire England
Fredrick J Hawkins Son 1892 19 Male Single Collier (hewer) Gloucestershire England
William H Hawkins Son 1896 15 Male Single Collier (hewer) Gloucestershire England
David L Hawkins Son 1899 12 Male Single At School Glamorgan Wales

(Martha is shown as having had 6 children, 2 have died). Husband Henry is in a local hospital at this time, where he eventually dies, all very sad indeed...

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1916 (>99%)
Belcher Henry J 56 Bridgend 11a 766

Wills Probate calender shows that "Martha Belcher(widow) of 43 Edmondestown Glam, died 15 June 1939, effects to William Harold Hawkins, miner".

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Eldest son Frederick John Hawkins served throughout WW1. His war records show he enlisted at Great Yarmouth in September 1914 and served until 1919, becoming a Bombardier in 19 Siege Battery Royal Garrison Artillery, the records mention his mother and brothers.

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Hawkins Frederick J Powell Pontypridd 11a 1531
Powell Jessie Hawkins Pontypridd 11a 1531

His Will shows he resided at Coverham View, Berry Hill and died 15 Jan 1962 at Lydney Hospital, effects to retired miner William Harold Hawkins.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1952 (>99%)
HAWKINS Jessie 69 F.of Dean 7b 296

Record_ID: 248410
Entry_Number: 454
Year: 1952
Month: Sep
Day: 30
Surname: HAWKINS
Forenames: Jessie
Residence: Berry Hill Christchurch (Dilke Hospital)
Age_at_death: 69 years
Officiating_Minister: W.F.Green Methodist Minister Mile End
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P82 IN 1/17
Page_No: 57
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex: H252

This FoD site does not have Fred's Burial Record.

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According to Frederick's war records, it appears his brother William didn't join the Services but remained at home to work in the colliery. However his name is very common in the Pontypridd area so I cannot yet trace his future records.

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Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Hawkins David Williams Pontypridd 11a 1276
Williams Annie M Hawkins Pontypridd 11a 1276

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1925 (>99%)
Hawkins David 27 Pontypridd 11a 763

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So sadly no real progress beyond what I'm sure you've already found wrt their burials etc, but will continue looking, tomorrow.

Meanwhile, perhaps someone else could please try finding William and Frederick in the 1939 Register, thanks.