Meek-welsh

I was wondering if someone could help me. My mothers maiden name was meek-welsh.
The family line so far goes :

WFDG meek-welsh (my grandfather)
2 - william james meek-welsh
3 - frederick william meek-welsh

We get to frederick meek-welsh and i get confused. i have his marriage certificate to Alberta Barnes. On the certificate, his fathers name is william welsh.
I then had a certificate given to me by my mothers cousin. It says frederick william, fathers name WILLIAM WHILS and mother MARY WHILS FORMERLY HADDOCK.
When i looked on here, i found the rbaptism which says william welsh

I need to know who his parents are to continue my research. I found a grave in Aylburton for a Mary meek-welsh beloved wife of william meek-welsh. The grave has possibly 2 other people buried there but i need to do a grave rubbing and in this weather, that isnt possible.
Can anyone help??

Kimberley

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I have posted the marriage you refer to just to give our merry band of helpers an idea of the dates involved.

Record_ID: 34748
Entry_Number: 385
Year: 1898
Month: Mar
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: WELSH
Grooms_Forenames: Frederick Meek
Grooms_Age: 28
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Aylburton
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Welsh
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Gardener
Brides_Surname: BARNES
Brides_Forenames: Alberta
Brides_Age: 29
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Aylburton
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Barnes
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Henry Saunders
Witness_2: Ann Edwards
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Stephen E Cornish Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Banns in the Parish Ch of Lydney w Aylburton
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/16
Page_Number: 193
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex_Groom: W420
Soundex_Bride: B652

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Hi Kimberley

To be honest, Welsh & Whils aren't that far apart. It could have been misread, misheard or misspelt!

Is this his baptism?

Record_ID: 166401
Entry_Number: 5
Year: 1869
Month: Jul
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: WELSH
Child_Forenames: Frederick William son of
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lydbrook
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: I.B. Charles
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born April 15th 1869
Notes:
Register_Reference: D2598 9/2
Page_Number: 6
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook Wesleyan Methodist
Soundex: W420

What was the document your cousin showed you please?

William & Mary married in 1865 at a Register Office (hence no marriage showing in Parish Records).

Marriages Mar 1865

Haddock Mary Monmouth 11a 59
Welsh William Monmouth 11a 59

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Yes this is the baptism i found.\
For some reason it wont allow me to put a picture on here\
Please could you contact me on my personal email as i am using my husbands on here\

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Hello again

I am not related so have no other information I can share with you I'm afraid!

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Marriage at Abenhall - 31 December 1833

James WELSH - Bachelor, Hundred of St Briavels

married

Ann MEEK - Spinster, Hundred of St Briavels

by banns

witnesses: mark of Joseph MEEK and Anna Maria WELCH

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Here's the 1851 census at Hope Mansell - James was a Waggoner, hence the various places of baptisms of the children

James WELCH - 37 - Waggonner, born Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Ann WELCH - 35 , born East Dean
William WELCH - 8 - born East Dean
Joseph WELCH - 2
Charles MECK - 38 - lodger, born East Dean

This seems to be correct

Marriage at Flaxley - 12 November 1845

Thomas YEMM - full age, bacheloer, labourer, township of East Dean
father: Thomas YEMM, labourer
married
Lydia MEEK - of full age - residence: East Dean
father: Joseph MEEK - labourer

Licence or Banns, Rites and ceremo

witnesses: John and Eliza ARKELL

1861 East Dean

Lydia YEMM - 44, married, Laundress born East Dean
Hannah WELCH - 9 - Niece
William WELCH - 18 - Nephew - Carter

Fod Records (baptisms up to 1851 so far)

Baptism at Drybrook

30 August 1835

Mary WELSH
parents: James (labourer) & Ann
residence, Bailey Pound

Baptism at Lea and also Abenhall

same day

19 August 1836

Richard WELSH

parents: James & Ann

residence: Lea Bailey, labourer

and then at Lea

Richard WELCH,

parents: James (labourer) & Ann

residence: part of the Hundred of St Briavels

and at Abenhall - 19 August 1836

Richard WELSH

parents: James (labourer) & Ann

residence: Lea Bailey

and at Lea - 11 October 1840

James WELCH

parents: James (labourer) & Ann

residence: part of the Hundred of St Briavels

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Baptism at Lea - 16 June 1842

William WELCH

parents: James (labourer) and Ann

residence, Hundred of St Briavels

Baptism at Hope Mansell

19 August 1848

Joseph WELSH,

parents: James (labourer) and Ann

residence: Hope Mansell

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Gloucestershirebdm

WELSH, mother's maiden name HADDOCK

1874, Susan Elizabeth, Forest of Dean, Chepstow, Lydney
1877, Gertrude Annie - ditto
1879, Thomas George - ditto
1884, Harold Edward - ditto

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Ancestry (as transcibed)

Here is the 1871 census for Ruardean,

'terrible scribbled over-writing' - William going by his mother's name MEEK

William MAK - 29 - Haulier - all born Ruardean
Mary MAK - 29
Mary HANCH MAK - 5
Frederick Wm MAK - 2
Oldrich Denna MAK - 1 month (Son) (CLDS - Oldrich Linus MEEK)
Ann HADDOCK - - unmarried - 37 - visitor

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1861 Census

William HADDOCK - born Newent
Susan - born Redbrook
Ann - 26
Mary - 19

1851 Census, Newland

HADDOCK

William - 48 - Forgeman, born Lydbrook
Susan - 47 - born Redbrook
George - 19 - born Lydbrook
Hannah - 16
Henry - 13
Mary A - 7
Elizabeth - 6

1841 Census, Lydbrook

William HADDOCK - 35 - Forgeman - not born in County
Susana - 35 - born in County
George - 8
Ann - 6
Henry - 4
John - 1
Nelson HADDOCK - 25 - Forgeman - not born in County

(Nelson (father Rawlings HADDOCK) married Jane JAMES, a Widow at English Bicknor - 15 July 1843,

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There have been many previous threads on HADDOCK's, Rawlings etc - HADDOCK is also in previous threads in my family tree

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