Wintles Brewery - Railway Inn, Lea; Jas Hawker 1911 (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, February 25, 2019, 15:41 (2135 days ago) @ Jefff

Continued:

Record_ID: 85513
Entry_Number: 1689
Year: 1887
Month: Mar
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: HAWKER
Child_Forenames: Edith Elisabeth
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elisabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Cinderford
Occupation: Innkeeper
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Feb 6 1887
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 212
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: H260

Record_ID: 85712
Entry_Number: 1888
Year: 1893
Month: Mar
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: HAWKER
Child_Forenames: Ethel May
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elisabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Cinderford
Occupation: Inn Keeper
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Feb 14 1893
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 236
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: H260

and so on, see this site's PRs for more baptisms.

Record_ID: 32752
Entry_Number: 251
Year: 1876
Month: May
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: HAWKER
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Haulier
Grooms_Residence: Cinderford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Hawker
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Philip
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Haulier
Brides_Surname: COOPER
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Superintendant R
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: John Thomas
Witness_2: Mark of Annie Hewlett
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: G.A. Allan Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 126
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex_Groom: H260
Soundex_Bride: C160

Record_ID: 113796
Entry_Number: 300
Year: 1909
Month: Feb
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: HAWKER
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: 56
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Hotel Proprietor
Grooms_Residence: Cinderford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: HAWKINS
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Philip
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Dealer
Brides_Surname: MORGAN
Brides_Forenames: Alice Dinah
Brides_Age: 47
Brides_Condition: W
Brides_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Residence: Little Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: GUEST
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Maude Morgan
Witness_2: Richard J. Newman
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Robert Briscoe D.D. Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 150
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex_Groom: H260
Soundex_Bride: M625

So James was actually born abt 1854, so he was 21 on his first marriage, perfectly fits the birth of his children, and shows his claimed age in 1911 was a tad optimistic, presumably because of his younger second-wife Alice.

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Regarding that 1911 Census for James Hawker at the Railway Inn, Lea, without any disrespect this seems a large family/staff for what was presumably a small and perhaps quiet hotel ?

Sadly that same year the family/staff got smaller, I wonder if Fred had been a sickly lad, which explains him being listed as a scholar at age of 14 when many boys far younger would have been working in the Cinderford mines etc ?

Record_ID: 65920
Entry_Number: 1468
Year: 1911
Month: Dec
Day: 24
Surname: HAWKER
Forenames: Frederick James
Residence: Lea Ross
Age_at_death: 35 years
Officiating_Minister: F. W. Baldwin Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 185
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: H260

Record_ID: 67172
Entry_Number: 1122
Year: 1930
Month: Apr
Day: 12
Surname: HAWKER
Forenames: James
Residence: 69 Belle Vue Road
Age_at_death: 66
Officiating_Minister: pp H M Biddell C Paul Gliddon
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 141
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: H260

Record_ID: 67667
Entry_Number: 1616
Year: 1937
Month: Feb
Day: 11
Surname: HAWKER
Forenames: Alice Dinah
Residence: Belle Vue Road Cinderford
Age_at_death: 74
Officiating_Minister: F W Potto Hicks St Stephen`s Cinderford
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 202
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: H260

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On reflection, presumably the Railway Inn c1911 did get some passing trade from commercial salesmen etc ?. Mitcheldean Road Station was the nearest point on the Gloster-Ross-Hereford railway line to the northern Forest, East Dean, Cinderford etc, being about 1.5 miles from Mitcheldean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitcheldean_Road_railway_station

Even in it's later days when the surrounding area had become more populated, there are still very few houses and such like near the Railway Inn, see centre-right of this 1948 O.S. map.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101570418