my great grandfather-Thomas william jones-i believe was born in coleford in about 1895.He soon after moved to Teignmouth south devon where he met florence louie pearce and married .He had 5 children.The eldest was my father Alfred Jones.Although the family continued to live in Teignmouth Thomas and Florence travelled back to mile end coleford so that my father could be born in the Forest of Dean,where i have found his baptism record.The only other fact i know about Thomas was he had a brother called Jim/james.There is a family tradition that Thomas`s family were possibly travellers connected to the coal industry in the Forest of Dean.After my grandfathers death in 1950 my grandmother did move back to wales for a while with her daughter Patricia possibly to the same area.

by lin sharland , Monday, December 26, 2011, 16:26 (1 minutes ago)
my great grandfather-Thomas william jones-i believe was born in coleford in about 1895.He soon after moved to Teignmouth south devon where he met florence louie pearce and married .He had 5 children.The eldest was my father Alfred Jones.Although the family continued to live in Teignmouth Thomas and Florence travelled back to mile end coleford so that my father could be born in the Forest of Dean,where i have found his baptism record.The only other fact i know about Thomas was he had a brother called Jim/james.There is a family tradition that Thomas`s family were possibly travellers connected to the coal industry in the Forest of Dean.After my grandfathers death in 1950 my grandmother did move back to wales for a while with her daughter Patricia possibly to the same area.possibly patricia's married name was Hale.Has anyone any information to help me trace Thomas william jones'ancestry.Thank you.

Name: Thomas William Jones
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1894
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 26

Year: 1894
Month: Aug
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Thomas William
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bicknor
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: George Hustler
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 178
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

some siblings :-
1891 JONES James John Sarah Ann English Bicknor Labourer English Bicknor
1895 JONES John John Sarah Ann Bicknor Labourer English Bicknor
1898 JONES Lucy John Sarah Ann Hiller's Land Labourer English Bicknor
1904 JONES Mary John Sarah Ann Mile End Labourer Coleford
1904 JONES Annie John Sarah Ann Mile End Labourer Coleford

census "map" :-

1891
Mary Jones abt 1830 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Sarah Ellis abt 1832 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Sister English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
John Jones abt 1869 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Nephew English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Ellis abt 1868 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Niece English Bicknor, Gloucestershire

1901 Joyford Lonk
John Jones abt 1869 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire Stone Quarryman
Sarah A Jones abt 1868 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
James Jones abt 1892 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Thomas W Jones abt 1895 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
John Jones abt 1896 English Bicknor Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Lucy Jones abt 1899 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Anne Jones abt 1900 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire

1911
JONES JOHN M 1867 44 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES MRS S F 1867 44 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES ANNIE F 1900 11 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES JAMES M 1892 19 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES JOHN M 1896 15 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES LUCY F 1899 12 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES MARY F 1903 8 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES TOM M 1895 16 Monmouth Monmouthshire

Name: Thomas W Jones
Birth Date: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1950
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 451

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Name: Alfred J Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 43

Year: 1919
Month: Nov
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Alfred James
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas William
Mothers_Forenames: Florence Louise
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mile End
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: E H Brice
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 91
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

Name: Alfred James Jones
Birth Date: 25 Sep 1919
Date of Registration: Feb 2002
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Teignbridge
Inferred County: Devon
Register number: 14GB
District and Subdistrict: 4131B
Entry number: 33

some assumptions may lead to :-

Name: Alfred J Jones
Spouse :Ellen O'connor
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1940
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 532

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Year: 1835
Month: Mar
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Esther
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: New Wier [sic]
Occupation: Tiler
Officiating_Minister: Richd. Davies Officiating Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Jan 22 1835
Notes: birth date in left margin
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 56
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

1851
Esther Jones abt 1799 Elska, Monmouthshire, Wales Head English Bicknor, Gloucestershire laundress
Thomas Jones abt 1835 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Edward Jones abt 1838 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Henry Jones abt 1841 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son English Bicknor, Gloucestershire

1861 nr Symonds Yat
Esther Jones abt 1798 Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales Head English Bicknor, Gloucestershire Laundress
Thomas Jones abt 1835 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Henry Jones abt 1841 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son English Bicknor, Gloucestershire

Name: Thomas Jones
Spouse Ann Jones ?
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1867
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 481

Year: 1869
Month: Jan
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: English Bicknor
Occupation: Publican
Officiating_Minister: J Burdon
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 138
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

1871 Trenchard St Ross
Thomas Jones 34 English Bicknor Carpenter
Ann Jones 30 Gloucester
John Jones 2 English Bicknor
James Jones 6 Months English Bicknor

1881
Mary Jones abt 1830 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head English Bicknor, Gloucestershire Grocer
Sarah Jones abt 1834 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Sister English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Thomas Jones abt 1837 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Brother English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
John C. Jones abt 1869 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Visitor English Bicknor, Gloucestershire

1891
Mary Jones abt 1830 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Sarah Ellis abt 1832 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Sister English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
John Jones abt 1869 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Nephew English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Ellis abt 1868 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Niece English Bicknor, Gloucestershire

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Name: Thomas W Jones
Spouse : Florence L Pearce
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1915
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 29

Year: 1915
Month: Feb
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas William
Grooms_Age: 20
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Mile End N[ea]r Coleford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: PEARCE
Brides_Forenames: Florence Lowe
Brides_Age: 17
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Domestic Servant
Brides_Residence: Mile End N[ea]r Coleford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Pearce
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Alfred Frank
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Milson Aston
Witness_2: Jane Aston
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: T Francis Williams
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 63
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

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Name: Alfred J Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 43

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Name: Leslie F Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1921
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Wales
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 52

Year 1921
Month May
Day 7
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forenames illegible Frank
Fathers Forenames Thomas William
Mothers Forenames Florence illegible
Mothers Surname
Residence Mile Lane
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister Edward S Morton
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P93/1 IN 1/10
Page Number 9
Parish Chapel Coleford

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Name: Kenneth L Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 139

<><><><>
Name: Vincent G Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1934
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 118

<><><>
Name: David Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 133

<><><><>
Name: Patricia A L Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pearce
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1936
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 120

Name: Patricia A L Jones
Spouse : Eric J Hale
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1956
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 1101

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1911 Wales Census
Monmouth
Mile End Nr Coleford

living in 5 rooms

JONES

John - 44 - married 23 years, 6 children born alive, 6 living, General Labourer, born English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Mrs S Jones - 44 - born Lydbrook, Gloucester
James - 19 - Collier Underground, born English Bicknor
Tom - 16 - Van Boy - born English Bicknor
John - 15 - Pit Boy underground - born English Bicknor
Lucy - 12 - School - born West DDean
Mary - 8 born West Dean

Name: Florence Louisa Pearce
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 92

1901
Alfred Perce abt 1870 Mevagissey, Cornwall, England Head East Teignmouth, Devon
Annie J Perce abt 1872 Teignmouth, Devon, England Wife East Teignmouth, Devon
Bunnie A Perce abt 1894 Teignmouth, Devon, England Daughter East Teignmouth, Devon
Alfred F Perce abt 1896 Teignmouth, Devon, England Son East Teignmouth, Devon
Florence L Perce abt 1898 Teignmouth, Devon, England Daughter East Teignmouth, Devon
Ida F Perce abt 1900 Teignmouth, Devon, England Daughter East Teignmouth, Devon
Rose Perce abt 1901 Teignmouth, Devon, England Daughter East Teignmouth, Devon

<><><><> ????
Name: Florence L Jones
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1966
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 472

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Year: 1922
Month: Jan
Day: 23
Grooms_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: 30
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Mile End Coleford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Retired Quarryman
Brides_Surname: GIBSON
Brides_Forenames: Gertrude
Brides_Age: 24
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Domestic Service
Brides_Residence: The Castle Clearwell
Brides_Fathers_Surname: GIBSON
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Harry William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Crane Driver
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: E Prail
Witness_2: Mary Bowkett
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Edward H Brice
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93/1 IN 1/13
Page_Number: 31
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

Jones / Gibson children ( some ?)
Arthur J E Jones Apr-May-Jun 1922 Monmouth Wales
Gwynneth L Jones Oct-Nov-Dec 1924 Monmouth Glamorganshire

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dear slowhands

thank-you so much for all your information. most of your records about my nan and grandad-thomas william jones and florence pearce since 1895 tally with what i knew,including baptisms of my dads siblings and of him.dad was alfred and as you know died in 2002.

However, his marriage to my mother occurred in london in 1948. could you please clarify marriage to ellen o'connor-was it an assumption or a fact.were there children etc,what happened to ellen.

thank you Lin Sharland.

However, his marriage to my mother occurred in london in 1948. could you please clarify marriage to ellen o'connor-was it an assumption or a fact.were there children etc,what happened to ellen.

thank you Lin Sharland.

Pure speculation based on the assumption that Teignmouth / Newton Abbott was the likely marriage area.

I certainly do not want to crashing into possible "skeletons" so perhaps its best to leave this line for the time being.

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thank you, no problem with skeletons at all, we are just curious.

is there any more information you have about this marriage? do you know ellens mothers/fathers details or what happened to ellen? do you know the exact date of the wedding?

what you have sent so far is fantastic as this was a dead end for us so please let us know if you have any more!

thank you

lin

is there any more information you have about this marriage? do you know ellens mothers or fathers details or what happened to ellen? do you know the exact date of the wedding?

To follow this you will need to order a certificate - sorry. There are no obvious children in the index, but being war time they may have moved elsewhere so there may be children.

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thanks for all of your help and information

I have found a John Jones who was born in about 1869 who is a probable/possible for my extended family tree by virtue of the fact his mother was Sarah Ann Morgan. Sarah Ann Morgan was baptised in 1841 in Parkend and married John Jones senior. The latter was born in about 1841 in West Dean. I have that this couple had, as well as John (Junior): Milson [Henry] Jones (born 1865) and Thomas Jones (born 1867). I know that sorting out the Jones' is a difficult task with there being so many but these are worth checking as a possible connection. I have found that Milson had a son called Alfred Milson Jones. But I haven't found any lines descending from the other two brothers as yet. This Alfred's mother could have been Allathea Charlotte (nee Preece), possibly born in Ross-on-Wye in the early 1860s and who married Milson Henry Jones in 1885.

thank you.The John that I am interested in was born in english bickley in 1869 but his mother was Ann and dad was Thomas.It is early days in my research but I will retain your information for future reference.