Cinderford TUMP location ? (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 01:18 (4710 days ago)

WRT Earlier Richard Baker post;
Gloucester Citizen Gloucestershire, England 10 Nov 1902
CINDERFORD. The death occurred, at an advanced age on Saturday at Cinderford Tump, of Mr. Richard Baker, a collier, and an old and highly respected inhabitant of the town. For several years he shared the representation of the Cinderford Ward of East Dean.


Does anyone know where this is ?.

My mother still lives in my childhood home in Cinderford, in Parragate which runs parallel with the High Street so below where Lidls(the old Red & White bus garage) now is, just along from where Bilson School was. Her house was built in 1962 on the site of some old mining cottages. When we were kids it overlooked down onto the "Green" and past that onto Bilson School Playing Field. There was a raised "plateau" at one end of the Green and right opposite the School playground which was called the Tump, we built our Guy Fawkes bonfires on it.
Could this be the same Tump, or were there several ?.

I presume the Tump was created from the spoil from the old mine workings that had long since closed when her house was built, I guess there were perhaps more than one Tump in Cinderford ?. My parents love gardening and are still regularly finding small lumps of coal in their soil.

The whole Green/Tump/playing field area to the west of Parragate Road was built over with council housing in the early 80s, now called Cedardean etc. At the time the logic of building over underlying mine workings was debated. I recall the gateway off Parragate Rd into the School Playing field was always boggy. This is immediately below the Tump (where the "C" of "Cedardean" is shown on this map
http://www.google.com/maps?q=CEDARDEAN, GL14+2XW&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=16


My father told me the house built there should survive an earthquake: apparently they gave up digging for solid foundations when the hole was so deep the JCB nearly got trapped, so they gave up and pumped in thousands of gallons of concrete leaving a huge raft to build on. 20 years before this I was walking along Parragate (so abt 80 yards North of this) to Bilson School one morning to find a huge hole had "appeared" in the road overnight, the full width of the road and very deep, again due to the workings below !

Cinderford TUMP location

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 03:23 (4710 days ago) @ Jefff

Cinderford Tump is the land around St John's Church.


In 1832 there were c. 51 dwellings east of thebrook at Cinderford bridge, in the area thencalled Lower Cinderford. (fn. 37) Most were south ofthe road (St. White's Road) on RuspidgeMeend, which belonged to the Abbots woodestate (fn. 38) and where Edward Protheroe built cottages, including several terraces, for miners inhis employment. (fn. 39) In 1841 the settlement at thebridge included a chapel and two beerhouses. (fn. 40) On the hillside to the north-east, known asCinderford Tump, the White Hart inn hadopened by 1834 (fn. 41) and, to the west, a school wasbuilt by Edward Protheroe in 1840 and thechurch of St. John the Evangelist was opened in1844. (fn. 42) At the ironworks, which stood 800 m.north of Cinderford bridge, cottages were builtat the bottom of the later Victoria Street to thesouth-east. In 1832 the area, known as UpperCinderford, included c. 38 houses, (fn. 43) mostly terraced cottages provided by the ironworks'owners, and a beerhouse called the Forge Hammer. (fn. 44) By the mid 19th century a few houses hadbeen built further north on Bilson (formerlyCartway) green, (fn. 45) which later became the mainindustrial area of Cinderford. One house, nextto Bilson colliery, was occupied by EdwardProtheroe's agent Aaron Goold in 1831, whenthe fences around its enclosure were destroyedby rioters. (fn. 46) Known later as Bilson House, it wasdemolished after 1973, during redevelopment ofthe area. (fn. 47)

From: 'Forest of Dean: Settlement', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 300-325. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23266 Date accessed: 28 December 2011.

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Cinderford TUMP location

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 04:32 (4710 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks for clearing that up Slowhands,
I suspected "the" Tump would be at the older (St John's) end of town, didnt think ours was "big" enough to be newsworthy.

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