Continuation of Ann & Sophia Herbert Entry (General)
I really think the "rules" governing Locked threads needs re-visiting. Here we have a thread not quite 2 days old, but due to the interest involved it has become locked deterring Forum users from adding to the thread.
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Re locked thread :
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=35571#p35617
And replying to Jeff.
Thomas Marfell 1795 & Elizabeth Herbert 1808 are another of my GGG Grandparents. The baptism you have shown is I beleve for a Jane Marfell. This baptism is amongst those I researched at Gloucester and I show below the note I made at the time :
Baptism unclear as to surname - Herbert or Marfell, but father shown as Thomas Marfell & Mother Elizabeth Herbert.
Thomas Marfell & Elizabeth Herbert had 13 children. Thomas died 1859 & Elizabeth 1880 :
Jane did not appear on the 1841, or any later census :
1841 Census Newham Bottom
Thomas Marfell 45 Mason
Elizabeth 40
Lydia 15
Abia 10
Miles 8
1851 Census Ruardean East Dean
MARFELL Thomas 55 Stone Mason Ruardean
Elizabeth 51 .Llandilo Monmouth
Miles 18 Coal Miner East Dean
Benjamin 13 Coal Miner East Dean
Enoch 13 Scholar East Dean
Selina 12 Scholar East Dean
Thomas 9 Scholar East Dean
Elizabeth Grand Daughter 1 East Dean
1861 Census East Dean Head. RG9 1755 290
Elizabeth 60 Widow Head East Dean
Miles son 29 Engineer East Dean
Elizabeth grandaughter 10 East Dean
1871 Census East Dean Elizabeth with son Miles
Miles Marfell 38 Mason East Dean
Jane wife 36 Hfd
Edith 10 Hfd
Elizabeth 7 Wales
Miles 6 East Dean
Miriam 4 East Dean
Rhoda 1 East Dean
Elizabeth mother W 70 East Dean
The Cornelius Marfell 1779 who married two Herberts Rosanna Herbert 1789/1817 on 21 Jul 1811 3 children, then Tamar 1792 on 20 Jun 1818 9 children, was the uncle of Thomas Marfell 1795.
Whilst my main research is the Marfell family I have 126 Herbert's in my family tree, which goes back to a marriage between a William Marfell & Elizabeth Fitzherbert about 1570.
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For Jean Herbert, from original posting. In my Family Tree I have John Herbert 1735 married to Nancy Morgan 1745 on 18 Dec 1776. I have recorded that John was a widower at marriage to Nancy. I have 9 children for them :
Nancy 1778
Henry 1779
*Hannah 1779/18 Oct 1829
Mary 1782
Daniel 1786
**Susanna 1788 - possibly Rosanna
Joseph 1789
**Tamar 1792/1877
Ann 1796
* Hannah 1779 married Jonathon Marfell 1764 on 13 Apr 1803 11 children
**Susanna (probably Rosanna) married Cornelius Marfell 1779 as shown previous thread (I know it's a nuisance that it isn't in this thread) also ** Tamar Herbert married the same Cornelius Marfell.
Jonathon Marfell 1764 & Cornelius Marfell 1779 are brothers, their parents Richard Marfell 1734/1808 & Mary Brain 1738/1813 had 11 children, including John Marfell 1762/1829 who married Jane Bennett 1771/1810 - these are the parents of Thomas Marfell 1795 who married Elizabeth Herbert - and so we go around and around !!
Jim Ashton