John Morgan c1851 (General)

by Dowercottage @, Friday, February 24, 2012, 14:33 (4652 days ago)

Please could anyone help with information about John Morgan, born in Lydbrook in 1851? He was a baker in Walford in the 1890's and before that, a policeman. It's the bit before that that I cannot seem to find out much about, especially who his parents were.

John Morgan c1851 - first marriage? Sarah YEMM

by m p griffiths @, Friday, February 24, 2012, 15:08 (4652 days ago) @ Dowercottage

Needs a bit of work... for starters (and am not sure whether we are back to previous threads i.e William & Tryphena (nee PARLOR) MORGAN of Lydbrook, who had a Son John 1851) Probably is, because William is a Shopkeeper on the 1891 census, along with his wife Tryphena : and again the address 'The Reddings'

1891

MORGAN

William - 66 - Shopkeeper, born West Dean
Triphena - 65 - ditto
Wallace - 21 - son - Haulier, born East Dean
Edith - 19 grand-daughter

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1861 Census, East Dean, Lydbrook

MORGAN

William - 36
Tryphena - 36
William - 13
Harriet - 12
John - 10

Thommos - 5
Elizabeth - 1

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On the 1881 census, John MORGAN is a Widower, ** but on the 1891 census he has a Sarah MORGAN age 12 who is now living with John and his new wife Ellen MORGAN from North Devon.

Looking at the 1881 census, there is a Sarah MORGAN niece age 2 born Glos. Reddings - living with Lydia YEMM a widow

and looking at the FOD records

Marriage at Lydbrook - 1 March 1874

John MORGAN, age 23 (c1851) Bachelor, residence: The Reddings

father William MORGAN, Collier

married

Sarah YEMM, age 21, Spinster

residence: Lydbrook

father: Cornelius YEMM, Collier by banns

witnesses: Simeon YEMM and Harriet MORGAN (possible sister age 12 on the 1861 census)


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FOD records, marriage at Bishopswood - 4 May 1881

John MORGAN, age 30 - Widower (Policeman) - residence, Walford

father: William MORGAN, Grocer,

married

Mary GAYTON, age 33, Spinster, residence: Hazel (illegible)

father: John GAYTON, Carpenter

by banns: Witnesses: John & Annie GAYTON


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1881 Census, Glos East Dean

High BEECH

YEMM

Lydia - 33 - widow, born Moorwood
Hannah L - 14
Miram k - 13
George - 12
Richard C - 9
Elizabeth 5
Sarah MORGAN - Niece age 2 - born Glos. Reddings

John Morgan c1851 - first marriage? Sarah YEMM

by Dowercottage @, Friday, February 24, 2012, 15:48 (4651 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Many thanks for your quick reply; you've just confirmed what I had already found out about John Morgan. My difficulty is that it's been suggested in a book (A History of Walford and Bishopswood) that his parents were grocer William Morgan and Charlotte which I haven't been able to find any evidence of but I wondered if someone else had information that I didn't and that I may have got it wrong.

Photographs of Morgan Family Bakery in Walford c1890-1900

by Dowercottage @, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 15:11 (4566 days ago) @ Dowercottage

Please does anyone have any old photographs of John Morgan, a baker in Walford or of the bakery?

Morgan Family Bakery Walford

by m p griffiths @, Monday, May 21, 2012, 16:12 (4565 days ago) @ Dowercottage

Looking at the 1901 census, the MORGAN's address is Road Cottage - the few places before are : Spread Eagle Inn, Soundings, Chestnut Cottage, Gordon Cottage.


MORGAN

John 50 - Grocer & Baker - at home
Ellen - 35
Osmond - 19 (Grocers Assistant - at home)
Frank - 17
John - 11
Henry - 9
Annie - 8
William - 7
Reginald - 5
Florence M - 2
Dulcie E - 9 months


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1911 Census, the MORGAN family are still at Road Cottage, Walford, with Ellen running the business

Living in 9 rooms (No. 18 on the Schedule)

MORGAN

Ellen - 43 Widow - 10 children born alive - 2 dead - born Barnstable, Devon
Osman (Nephew) - 29 Baker
Henry - 19 - Baker
Annie - 18
William - 17 - Baker
Reginald - 15
Florence - 12
Dulcie - 10
Maud Mary - 6


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No. 11 on the 1911 Census Schedule is a Public House (Mr Smith)
No. 13 - Grocer's Shop
No. 18 - The MORGAN family
No. 19 Walford Court
No. 20 Brook Cottage

then a Church

No. 21 Brook House

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