Jane CROOME born about 1822 Woolaston (General)
by cjk136 
, Thursday, March 01, 2012, 09:48 (4646 days ago)
Firstly, I am looking for help establishing exactly who my great, great grandmother Jane CROOME was! She was born around 1822 in Woolaston, Glos. - either her age varies considerably or I have the wrong one!
The facts are she married John Edward HELPS (born 1829 aged 19) in Bristol on 22 Mar 1848 when Jane was 24. According to their marriage certificate her father was John HELPS, a labourer. I believe they had only one child, a daughter Ellen HELPS 1849-1893, my great grandmother. The 1891 census lists her living in Bristol with her daughter, HELPS, Jane Mother In Law Widow F 73 1818 Woolasten Monmouthshire Gloucestershire. She died in Bristol in 1908 aged 83.
Unless anyone knows differently, I presume this may be her baptism in the FOD parish records:
Record_ID: 73813 Entry_Number: 232 Year: 1822 Month: Aug Day: 23
Parents_Surname: CROOME
Child_Forenames: Jane
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: C Bryan
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daughter of
Notes: Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/4 Page_Number: 29
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston Soundex: C650
Secondly, I am looking for help finding John Edward and Jane HELPS on the 1851 census. I can track them back by census to 1841 and in 1861 when all three were living in Bristol; Jane being described as a char woman or domestic servant. But I can't find either of them anywhere on the 1851 census when they would have been married for 2 or 3 years - can anyone else find them please?
1841 Census:
Address: Bowlash Parish Of Woollaston, Woollaston
EDWARDS, Thomas M 25 1816 Gloucestershire
EDWARDS, Mary Ann F 30 1811 Gloucestershire
EDWARDS, Ann F 8 1833 Gloucestershire
EDWARDS, Hannah F 7 1834 Gloucestershire
EDWARDS, Eliza F 5 1836 Gloucestershire
EDWARDS, Thomas M 3 1838 Gloucestershire
EDWARDS, Matilda F 1 1840 Gloucestershire
CROOME, Jane F 20 1821 Gloucestershire
RG number: HO107 Piece: 369 Book/Folio: 4 Page: 2 Registration District: Chepstow Sub District: Lydney Civil Parish: Woollaston County: Gloucestershire
I would appreciate any assistance or to hear from anyone who has researched or has connections with the CROOME or HELPS families. Thank you in advance!
Jane CROOME 1822 Woolaston - associated thread
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, March 01, 2012, 12:05 (4646 days ago) @ cjk136
I'm sure you have the correct one !
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=7325#p7326
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John HELPS 1828 Bristol
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, March 01, 2012, 12:15 (4646 days ago) @ cjk136
1851
John Hellpps abt 1827 Bristol Head Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire Painter / Glazier
Ann Hellpps abt 1824 Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Ellen Hellpps abt 1848 Bristol Daughter Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
1861
John Helps abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Head Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Jane Helps abt 1825 Bristol Wife Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Ellen Helps abt 1848 Bristol Daughter Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
1871
John Helps 39
Jane Helps 42
1881
John Helps abt 1831 Bristol St Philips Head Bristol St Paul In, Gloucestershire
Jane Helps abt 1830 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bristol St Paul In, Gloucestershire
Name: John Helps
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1890
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 21
1891
Isaac Ellis abt 1850 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Ellen Ellis abt 1849 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Walter Ellis abt 1874 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
James Ellis abt 1876 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Alfred Ellis abt 1878 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Rose Ellis abt 1882 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Ellen Ellis abt 1885 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Blanche Ellis abt 1887 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Jane Helps abt 1818 Woolaston, Monmouthshire, Wales Mother-in-law St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
1901 Bristol Workhouse
Jane Helps abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Inmate Bristol, Gloucestershire
Name: Jane Helps
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 147
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John HELPS 1828 Bristol
by cjk136 , Thursday, March 01, 2012, 12:31 (4646 days ago) @ slowhands
Brilliant slowhands, thank you so much!
I thought I had exhausted all the different spellings possible in 1851, I've been trying for ages! But I hadn't reckoned on Ellen Helps from Woolaston being called Ann from Olveston with two 'l's two 'p's !! You are clever x
Thank you for also letting me know you think I'm on the right track, I can carry on with parents now. Thanks again.
John HELPS 1828 Bristol
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, March 01, 2012, 12:37 (4646 days ago) @ cjk136
Brilliant slowhands, thank you so much!
I thought I had exhausted all the different spellings possible in 1851, I've been trying for ages! But I hadn't reckoned on Ellen Helps from Woolaston being called Ann from Olveston with two 'l's two 'p's !! You are clever x
Thank you for also letting me know you think I'm on the right track, I can carry on with parents now. Thanks again.
Sometimes all it takes is a fresh pair of eyes - bless the Enumerator who probably didin't know that Woolaston was just across the River from Olveston / Alveston.....
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