George Morgan 1862 Lydbrook (General)

by calzeat @, Thursday, March 08, 2012, 21:46 (4638 days ago)

George Morgan 1862 was the brother of my great great grandfather William Morgan. I have some details for him but have not been able to find records of his two marriages.


1881 Census
William MORGAN Head M Male 55 Joy Ford, Gloucester, England Grocers Shop
Tryphina MORGAN Wife M Female 54 Lydbrook, Gloucester, England
George MORGAN Son U Male 19 Lydbrook, Gloucester, England Coal Miner Milson MORGAN Son U Male 16 Reddings, Gloucester, England Coal Miner
Wallace MORGAN Son U Male 11 Reddings, Gloucester, England Scholar
Edith MORGAN Gdaur Female 9 Joys Green, Gloucester, England Scholar


1891 Census
George Morgan Head Male 27 abt 1864 Reddings East Dean Gloucestershire England
Edith Morgan Wife Female 19 abt 1872 Moorwood East Dean Gloucestershire England
Edith Morgan Daughter Female 7 abt 1884 Reddings East Dean Gloucestershire England William Morgan Son Male 5 abt 1886 Reddings East Dean Gloucestershire England
Albert Morgan Son Male 4 abt 1887 Reddings East Dean Gloucestershire England
Harriett Morgan Daughter Female 3 abt 1888 Reddings East Dean Gloucestershire

His wife, Edith Morgan, is Edith Annie. I can't find a record of the marriage in the Parish Records but there is a FreeBMD for a possible marriage.

Jun 1891
Knight Edith Annie Monmouth 11a 74
Morgan George Monmouth 11a 74

However, all of the children are born before 1891 and Edith is only 19 in the 1891 census so there must have been a previous wife. I have found the baptism records for William, Albert and Harriet and their mother is Rosa. I can't find the baptism PR for Edith 1884.

There isn't a PR for a marriage between George and Rosa but I found a FreeBMD record for a marriage.

Dec 1883
KNIGHT Rosanna Monmouth 11a 71
MORGAN George Monmouth 11a 71

Year 1890
Month Nov
Day 22
Surname MORGAN
Forenames Rosa Anna
Residence Moor Wood Coppice Lydbrook
Age at death 24 years
Officiating Minister H. T. Hoitt Vicar
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P208 1N 1/12
Page No 18
Parish Chapel Lydbrook

This appears to tie in but do I have the correct Rosa Anna/Rosanna/Rosa?

In the 1901 census there are more children.

1901 Census
George Morgan Head 39 abt 1862 Male East Dean Gloucestershire England
Edith A Morgan Wife 29 abt 1872 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Edith A Morgan Daughter 17 abt 1884 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
William Morgan Son 15 abt 1886 Male East Dean Gloucestershire England
Albert Jas Morgan Son 14 abt 1887 Male East Dean Gloucestershire England
Harriett E Morgan Daughter 13 abt 1888 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Norah A Morgan Daughter 8 abt 1893 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Wilsie T Morgan Daughter 5 abt 1896 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Archie E G Morgan Son 9 Months abt 1900 Male East Dean Gloucestershire

There do not appear to be any baptism records for Norah 1893 or Wilsie 1896. I believe there are even more children but am not able to access the 1911 census on Ancestry.

George Morgan was killed in an accident at the Arthur & Edward Colliery in 1916 and I have found the Inquest record.

I would be grateful for any information regarding the two marriages.

George MORGAN Marriage 1883 Rosa KNIGHT

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, March 09, 2012, 06:31 (4638 days ago) @ calzeat


Dec 1883
KNIGHT Rosanna Monmouth 11a 71
MORGAN George Monmouth 11a 71

I would be grateful for any information regarding the two marriages.


MORGAN George
KNIGHT Rosanna
Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office
1883 12 133

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1871 Lydbrook
James Knight 31
Ann Mariah Knight 28
Fanny Knight 5
Rosett Knight 4
Eliza Knight 2
Richard Knight 5

1881
Rosa Knight abt 1867 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Servant Ross, Herefordshire

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George MORGAN Marriage 1883 Rosa KNIGHT

by calzeat @, Friday, March 09, 2012, 22:29 (4637 days ago) @ slowhands

Thank you. Rosa would have been approx 16 when they married; would this have been the reason for them not marrying at the chapel?

Is there some explanation as to why families would baptise only some of their children? Only 3 of James and Ann Knight's children were baptised, or so it would seem. I have found this with George Morgan, too. Of course, it could be that I am not searching hard enough!

The Ancestry website is playing up, this evening, so I am struggling. Please forgive me if I do not reply to you messages.

George MORGAN Marriage 1883 Rosa KNIGHT

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, March 10, 2012, 00:16 (4637 days ago) @ calzeat

Another explanation is that families moved from established Church to Non conformist ,.......

or perhaps money was tight

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George MORGAN Marriage 1891 Edith Annie KNIGHT

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, March 09, 2012, 06:32 (4638 days ago) @ calzeat


Jun 1891
Knight Edith Annie Monmouth 11a 74
Morgan George Monmouth 11a 74

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I would be grateful for any information regarding the two marriages.


MORGAN George
KNIGHT Edith Annie
Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office
1891 15 193

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Year: 1872
Month: Mar
Day: 31
Parents_Surname: KNIGHT
Child_Forenames: Edith Annie
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: East Dean
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Penfold
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 2
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean


1881
Thomas Knight abt 1846 Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Knight abt 1851 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Knight abt 1872 Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Knight abt 1875 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Knight abt 1879 Reddings, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

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George MORGAN Marriage 1891 Edith Annie KNIGHT

by calzeat @, Saturday, March 10, 2012, 20:42 (4636 days ago) @ slowhands

Thank you. It appears that Edith Annie Knight and Rosa Anna Knight were cousins. Thomas (1846) and James Knight (1839) were sons of Richard Knight (1814) and Hannah Bennet (1817).

Unless, of course, someone knows different.

George & Edith Annie MORGAN Lydbrook 1911 census

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, March 09, 2012, 06:47 (4638 days ago) @ calzeat


1901 Census
George Morgan Head 39 abt 1862 Male East Dean Gloucestershire England
Edith A Morgan Wife 29 abt 1872 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Edith A Morgan Daughter 17 abt 1884 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
William Morgan Son 15 abt 1886 Male East Dean Gloucestershire England
Albert Jas Morgan Son 14 abt 1887 Male East Dean Gloucestershire England
Harriett E Morgan Daughter 13 abt 1888 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Norah A Morgan Daughter 8 abt 1893 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Wilsie T Morgan Daughter 5 abt 1896 Female East Dean Gloucestershire England
Archie E G Morgan Son 9 Months abt 1900 Male East Dean Gloucestershire


Name: Nora Annie Morgan
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1892
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 227


Name: Wilsie Tryphena Morgan
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 241

Name: Ivo John Morgan
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1902
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 304

Name: Osmond Rexey C Morgan
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 300


1911
MORGAN GEORGE M 1862 49 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MORGAN EDITH ANNIE F 1871 40 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MORGAN ALBERT M 1887 24 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MORGAN ARCHIE EDWIN GER M 1901 10 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MORGAN NORA ANNIE F 1893 18 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MORGAN RESCEY CLARENCE M 1907 4 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MORGAN TWO JOHN M 1902 9 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MORGAN WILSIE TYPHENA F 1896 15 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

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