George Gardiner 1845 & Sarah Bennett 1842 (General)

by Barbara B @, Monday, March 26, 2012, 20:43 (4620 days ago)

George was born in Bisley Glos. and Sarah was born in Whitecroft. On the 1881 census they were living at 5 Salmon Court Gloucester with 4 Children one being Richard Brain Scrivens, stepson to George. I can find Richard on the 1871 census along with Sarah & Worthy Scrivens. I am confused over the dates of marriage. I can find no trace of a marriage between Sarah and Worthy Scrivens, but I do have a marriage cert for George Gardiner and Sarah Bennett dated 17th April 1881 at St Nicholas Glos. Yet on the 1881 census they had 3 children all born before this date. George's father is shown as Abraham and Sarah's father is John. I have a birth certificate for their daughter Phoebe Eleanor [my grandmother who married Thomas Davis] born 1876 in Gloucester which states mother as Sarah Gardiner formerly Bennett. The family were living in Woolaston on the 1891 census, Blistors Cottage Newland in 1901 and Awre Rd. Blakeney in 1911. On the 1911 census it says that they had been married for 30 yrs and had 15 children 7 still living and 8 died. Can anyone shed some light on this for me. Also can anyone give me any information on Sarah as I have been unable to find her.

GARDINER/GARDNER+BENNETT

by m p griffiths @, Monday, March 26, 2012, 21:13 (4620 days ago) @ Barbara B

Who were the witnesses at the wedding of George GARDINER to Sarah BENNETT - 17 APRIL 1881 , Gloucester St Nicholas

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By Googling around, Worthy SCRIVENS, parents were : Joseph SCRIVENS and Elizabeth Eliza BRAIN (hence Richard BRAIN SCRIVENS)


Worthy SCRIVENS married Sarah - and had two children - Richard Brain SCRIVENS and Molly

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Death:

Worthy SCRIVENS, c1845 - July/August/September Qtr 1871 age 26, Gloucester - date on family website given as 17 September 1871)

births:

Richard Brain SCRIVENS, mother's maiden name BENNETT, 1870, Gloucester St Nicholas


Phoebe Eleanor GARDINER, mother's maiden name BENNETT, 1876, Gloucester St Nicholas

Henrietta GARDINER, 1879, Gloucester St Nicholas (BENNETT)

John GARDINER, 1879, Gloucester St Nicholas (BENNETT)


at the moment, can't see Thomas GARDINER, with mother's maiden name BENNETT - age 7 on the 1881 census


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Where are Woody and Sarah SCRIVENS on the 1871 census?

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1841 Census, Glos Bisley

GARDINER

Abraham - 35 - all born in County
(Glos Burial Index - death at Bisley - Abraham GARDINER age 44 - 1 September 1844 - residence Tunley)
Jethro - 18
Phebe - 35
Elisha - 15
Livira - 10


1851 Census, Glos. Bisley

GARDINER

Phoebe - Widow - 47
Esther ? - 23
George - 6


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Gloucestershire Baptism Index

Bisley All Saints

Louisa GARDINER - parents Abraham (Weaver) and Phoebe - residence, Water Lane (7 June 1829)

Elisha GARDNER - ditto (6 June 1824)

Worthy SCRIVENS 1845 - 1871 Gloucester

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 07:25 (4620 days ago) @ Barbara B

George was born in Bisley Glos. and Sarah was born in Whitecroft. On the 1881 census they were living at 5 Salmon Court Gloucester with 4 Children one being Richard Brain Scrivens, stepson to George. I can find Richard on the 1871 census along with Sarah & Worthy Scrivens. I am confused over the dates of marriage. I can find no trace of a marriage between Sarah and Worthy Scrivens, but I do have a marriage cert for George Gardiner and Sarah Bennett dated 17th April 1881 at St Nicholas Glos. Yet on the 1881 census they had 3 children all born before this date. George's father is shown as Abraham and Sarah's father is John. I have a birth certificate for their daughter Phoebe Eleanor [my grandmother who married Thomas Davis] born 1876 in Gloucester which states mother as Sarah Gardiner formerly Bennett. The family were living in Woolaston on the 1891 census, Blistors Cottage Newland in 1901 and Awre Rd. Blakeney in 1911. On the 1911 census it says that they had been married for 30 yrs and had 15 children 7 still living and 8 died. Can anyone shed some light on this for me. Also can anyone give me any information on Sarah as I have been unable to find her.


Name: Worthy Scriven
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1845
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 39

1851
Joseph Levivay abt 1812 Lopington, Gloucestershire, England Head Kingsholm St Mary, Gloucestershire
Eligh Levivay abt 1793 Radbourn, Wiltshire, England Wife Kingsholm St Mary, Gloucestershire
James Levivay abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Son Kingsholm St Mary, Gloucestershire
John Levivay abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Son Kingsholm St Mary, Gloucestershire
Ann Levivay abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Kingsholm St Mary, Gloucestershire
Worthy Levivay abt 1845 Gloucestershire, England Son Kingsholm St Mary, Gloucestershire
Ridhd Levivay abt 1849 Gloucestershire, England Son Kingsholm St Mary, Gloucestershire

1861
Joseph Scrivens abt 1812 Lassington Head Gloucester St Nicholas, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Scrivens abt 1813 Rodbourne, Wiltshire, England Wife Gloucester St Nicholas, Gloucestershire
Worthy Scrivens abt 1845 St Mary's, Wiltshire, England Son Gloucester St Nicholas, Gloucestershire
Richard Scrivens abt 1848 St Michaels, Wiltshire, England Son Gloucester St Nicholas, Gloucestershire

Name: Worthy Scrivens
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1871
Age at Death: 26
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 176

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Joseph SCRIVENS/Eliza BRAIN

by m p griffiths @, Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 08:32 (4620 days ago) @ slowhands

Gloucestershire Marriage Index/FOD records

Joseph SCRIVENS (residence: Tuffley) - married Eliza BRAIN (residence: Tuffley) 10 August 1834, Gloucester St Mary de Lobe

Sarah GARDINER -(mother Ellen JAMES)

by m p griffiths @, Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 13:38 (4620 days ago) @ Barbara B

There are a few Public Members Trees on Ancestry

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On the 1891 Census Sarah nee BENNETT - gives her age as 42 - c 1849 and born Whitecroft (and father John is her marriage certificate)


1891 Census, Woolaston
Brookend

GARDINER

George - 47 - born Turley, Glos
Sarah - 42 - born Whitecroft
Phoebe E - 15 - Gloucester
John - 13 - Gloucester
Teresa - 8 - Alvington
Lucy - 6 - Alvington
Gertrude - 1 - Alvington

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1851 Census, Gloucestershire, West Dean,

Smart Delf Slope Pit

BENNETT

John - Head - married 30 - Coal Miner, born Gloucestershire, Uley
Elin - 30 all born Whitecroft
Mary Ann - daug - 9
Henrietta - daug - 6
Sarah - 3
James John - 1m ****
William BENNETT, visitor, married 56 - Billey Spinner on Wool Rover? - born Gloucestershire, Cam


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The family appear to be Methodists - FOD records

Baptism at Monmouth Wesleyan Methodist

James John BENNETT, parents John & Ellen, (1) son on (2) five weeks (old)

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The only question is? if Sarah GARDINER - married Worthy SCRIVENS, was this a Methodist marriage also?

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Gloucestershirebdm - BENNETT, mother's maiden name : JAMES

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1861 Census, Lydney (transcribed on Ancestry as DENNIN)


BENNETT

John - 40 - Cokeman and Filler - born Uley, Glos
Ellen - 40 - born Whitecroft
Mary A - 18 - born Whitecroft
Sarah - 13 - born Whitecroft
William - 8 - born Dark Hill, Glos
George J -3 - born Penderford, Glos


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FOD records, Marriage at Newland 29 May 1841

John BENNETT,
Grooms age: Minor, Bachelor, Collier - residence: Whitecroft
father: William BENNETT - Clothier

married

Ellen JAMES : Minor, Spinster, residence : Whitecroft
father: John JAMES - Collier

witnesses: John JAMES and Amy JAMES

Sarah GARDINER -(mother Ellen JAMES)

by Barbara B @, Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 20:40 (4619 days ago) @ m p griffiths

On the 1871 census Worthy and Sarah were living in Westgate Street Swan Lane St Nicholas Gloucester with Matilda Robins and family. The witnesses at the wedding of George and Sarah were Benjamin Griffiths and Sara Swains[?] and her age is shown as 39.

George Gardiner 1845 & Sarah Bennett 1842

by peteressex @, Wednesday, April 04, 2012, 06:36 (4612 days ago) @ Barbara B

The reference here to "Blistors Cottage Newland" is interesting.

There are several links to Blistors Farm at Bream by way of photographs and commentary if you search "Blistors" on www.sungreen.co.uk. Bream used to be tied to Newland before becoming its own parish. I should think the cottage and the farm were on much the same plot. Googling "Bristors Newland" draws a blank except for the present thread. You may therefore be led to more about your ancestors and/or their landlords if you go after references to "Blistors Bream."

Roger Dennis in the sungreen commentaries has more information about Blistors. I lurk merely because he and I are distant cousins through being descended from the Pritchards who give the mutual Bristors connection.

If you can find a link between your Gardiners and those who worked at Lydney Docks, there's more to tell.

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