According to the 1871 census my ancestors William & Margaret Morgan lived at the Rising Sun Inn in East Dean, Margaret's occupation being Beerhouse Keeper. I have been unable to find any more info about this. Can anyone help?

Mary

According to the 1871 census my ancestors William & Margaret Morgan lived at the Rising Sun Inn in East Dean, Margaret's occupation being Beerhouse Keeper. I have been unable to find any more info about this. Can anyone help?

Mary

returning to the Census image, very probably the one in Ruspidge

My transcription:-

1871 Rising Sun Inn, Lower Ruspidge

William Morgan 61 west dean
Margaret Morgan 61 pontypool
Samuel Morgan 22 east dean
Edmund Morgan 20 east dean
John Morgan 17 east dean
Margaret Morgan 10 east dean

Today's address and image
77 Ruspidge Road, CINDERFORD, GL14 3AW
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1026001

map
http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO649115

In Ruspidge the New Inn and the Rising Sun, two of four inns at the bottom of Ruspidge Road in 1872, (fn. 86) remained open in 1993.

From: 'Forest of Dean: Social life', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 381-389. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23270 Date accessed: 24 April 2012.

see also
http://www.gloucestershirecamra.org.uk/pubs/glospubs/new/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPub...

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According to the 1871 census my ancestors William & Margaret Morgan lived at the Rising Sun Inn in East Dean, Margaret's occupation being Beerhouse Keeper. I have been unable to find any more info about this. Can anyone help?

Mary

there is also a Rising Sun at

Moseley Green Parkend, Lydney GL15 4HN

but its not in Ruspidge :-)so its not the correct one

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The Easywell Glos Pubs site has a particularly good page for this pub with lots of history & photos old and new. I believe the pub is still trading, quite unusual for so many of the old Forest pubs. The site states the pub dates at least from 1865, the earliest quoted landlord being a Thomas Guest in 1879 (I believe sourced from Kelly's Directory - http://www.forest-of-dean.net/?Kellys_Directory_1879 ) . That's not to suggest your information is wrong of course, the site isn't always uptodate in this respect and relies heavily on the available Trade Directories - if you contact the owner Geoff Sandalls he may update his site to include your ancestors. He has also written an "Old photos" book of Glostershire Pubs. As good as it is, unfortunately for us it's largely centred on the Stroud district with only a very few Forest pubs mentioned, and sadly not the Rising Sun.
The Easywell website doesn't permit direct links, but this will take you to the home/search page. I suggest you enter "Ruspidge" in the search box and you'll find it straightaway. Entering "Rising Sun" will give you 32 pubs countywide to leaf thro !

http://www.gloucestershirecamra.org.uk/pubs/glospubs/new/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPub...

PS late edit, sorry Slowhands, didn't see your link to Easywell site !

William MORGAN on the 1871 census (on page 9 of 14) in East Dean - District 20

This is the Enumerator's notes and route.....

The 16th remaining part of the Township of East Dean, commencing at the Forest of Dean Tramway at Cinderford Bridge is bounded on the East by the said Tramway to Mr Evans Tailor/Sailor? on the South East by the said Tramway to Shakemantle Works across the railway below the Shakemantle works to Wm JORDAN's *** thence to Stapledge Lodge, Lightmoor Collieries and Orley Mire Lodge including houses at each place. Within this district is included Lower Ruspridge, colour Mill Lower Ruspidge row, Shakemantle Works, the two keepers lodge and the houses at Lightmoor Colliers.

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Wm Jordan is living at Shakemantle Works and is on page 12 of 14

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The Enumerator only listed these properties....

George Inn - page 3
The Feather Inn - page 4
The Rising Sun - page 9 **
The New Inn - page 10 **
Shakemantle Works - page 12
Shapledge Lodge - page 13
Lightmoor Colliers - pages 13/14
Yew Tree Braker Lodge - page 14
Orley Mire Lodge - page 14

previous reply......

'In Ruspidge the New Inn and the Rising Sun, two of four inns at the bottom of Ruspidge Road in 1871'

There was also a Rising Sun at Abenhall, see Geoff Sandles excellent website about Gloucestershire Pubs.

http://www.gloucestershirecamra.org.uk/pubs/glospubs/new/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPub...

Ian T

Ruspidge, Glos. East Dean, District 13

No. on Schedule 95

New Inn

Living in 6 rooms

Jno PHILLIPS - age 34, married 7 years, 7 children born alive, 2 dead, Innkeeper, born East Kirby Notts
PHILLIPS C.E. age 38 - wife born Lydbrook
PHILLIPS R. - son age 8 born Ruspidge
PHILLIPS Mildred daughter age 2

No. on Schedule 100

George Inn

Living in 6 rooms

Hedley James HARRIS - Woodcutter, age 27, 4 children born alive, 3 living 1 dead - born Berry Hill
Louisa HARRIS - 24 - born Coleford
Doris HARRIS - 3 - born Coleford
Hedley John HARRIS - 2 - born Coleford
Lillian HARRIS - 9 months, born Glos. Ruspidge

Rising Sun

No. on Schedule 103

Living in 9 rooms

Ann BUTT - 65 - Widow - 12 children born alive, 10 living two dead - born Cinderford
Esther BUTT - daughter - 33 - single - born Cinderford
Frank BUTT - son - 28 - single, Coal miner Hewer - born Cinderford
Agnes BUTT - daughter - 25 - single born Ruspidge
Sarah BUTT - daughter - 23 - single born Ruspidge

Feathers Inn

No. on Schedule 111

Living in 8 rooms

heavily scribbed out how many years married.....

Alice HALL - 58 - Widow, Innkeeper born East Dean
Arthur S HALL -single - son age 25 - Coal Miner Hewer born Ruspidge
Albert HALL - single - son age 20 - Coal Miner Filler & Wheeler born Ruspidge
Emily May HALL - single - daughter - 17 - born Ruspidge
Henry SMITH, Boarder - 55 - single -Coal Miner Hewer - born Ruspidge

1901 Census, Glos. East Dean

Rising Sun Inn

BUTT

Ann - Widow - 55 - Innkeeper - all born Cinderford (nee MORTIMER)
Esther - 20
William - 20 - Coal Miner Hewer
Mary - 20
Frank - 16 - Coal Miner Hewer
Agnes - 15 School Pupil Teacher
Sarah - 13

1891 Census, East Dean
Rising Sun Inn

BUTT

Thomas - 53 - born Glos. Churchdown
Ann - 46 - born Cinderford
William - 11
Mary - 9
Frank - 8
Agnes - 5
Sarah - 3

1881 Census Westbury on Severn East Dean

Station? Street

BUTT

Thomas - 43 - Mason & Public, born Glos. Churchdown
Ann - 35 - born Cinderford
Ann - 10
John - 8
Hannah - 5
Esther - 3
William - 1
Mary - 4 months

1871 Census, Glos East Dean

BUTT

Thomas - 33 Stonemason, born Glos. Churchdown
Ann - 25
Emma - 3
Tom - 2
Ann - 6 months
Emma BUTT - sister - unmarried - 18 - General Servant, born Upton St. Leonard

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Thomas BUTT married Ann MORTIMER - at Cinderford St John the Evangelist 1866

FOD records

Marriage at Cinderford St John

12 August 1866

Thomas BUTT age 28, Bachelor, residence: Cinderford
father: John BUTT - Labourer

married

Ann MORTIMER - age 22, Spinster, residence: Cinderford
father: Samuel MORTIMER, Collier
by banns

witnesses: William and Jane CRUMP

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FOD records

Burial at Cinderford St John - 15 June 1944

Ann BUTT

residence: Rising Sun Ruspidge Road

age 98

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FreeBDM

Death: Thomas BUTT age 58 - J/F/M Qtr 1896 Westbury S

1901 Census, Ruspidge

New Inn

BALDWIN

Henry - 37 - Licenced Vituler, born Herefordshire, Ross
Elizabeth - 42 - born Ruspidge
Elizabeth - 14 - born Ruspidge

1901 Census - East Dean

Feathers Inn

HALL

Thomas - 48 - Coal Miner Hewer below ground, all born Glos East Dean
Alice - 48
Henry - 21 - Coal Miner etc
Arthur - 21 - Coal Miner etc
Albert - 10
Henry SMITH lodger, 44

1901 Census, East Dean, Ruspidge

HALL

Thomas - 39 Coal Miner, Born Plump Glos
Alice - 39 - born Blakeney
Thomas R - 13 - born Barnsley, Yorkshire
Henry - 11 - born Barnsley, Yorkshire
William - 9 - born Ruspidge
Arthur - 5
Albert - 4 months

1901 Census East Dean

George Inn

JONES

John H - 33 Coal Miner Hewer, born Drybrook
Elizabeth - 33 - born Coleford
Olive - 9 born Cinderford
Arnold - 11 - born America USA
Dorcas L M - 7 months - born Ruspidge