Does anyone know where Crofts House was situated in Ross on Wye c 1835.
Given as home address for Henry & Sarah Minett on the childrens baptism records.
By 1841 census Sarah has died & Henry has remarried & living in New Street, Ross.

By using the Advance Search (baptisms) - and just put in Croft House, Ross on Wye

DRAPER

1840 - Emma - parents Richard (Glazier) & Emma
1841 - Caroline - Richard & Emily
1843 - Mary Elziaebth - Richard & Emma
1845 - Albert George - Richard & Emma
1847 - Catherine Susan - Richard & Emma

1841 Census, Herefordshire, Ross (page 15 of 16 - although not many houses on Page 16)
District 2 ***

Crofts

DRAPER

Richard 30
Emma - 25
Richard - 7
Ann - 4
Emma - 1

There are a few houses listed under Crofts - Borough Crofts is just before and think it says Glocester Road - a few houses later.

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District 2 - Enumerators Notes

All that part of the Town of Rofs comprising the Eastern side of Cops Cross Street, Hatters Lane the Gloucester Road, the Eastern side of Broad Street and Brookend Street, Batts Gardens, and Wolverhampton & Broadmead Terraces.

Wolverhampton & Broadmead Terraces are on Page 14 of 16 - and on Page 16, is over the Stable at George Inn.

- Advance Search using Croft House (Burials)

1929 Rowland COOPER - Croft House Ross
1930 - Doreen Elizabeth Ann WALL - Croft House Ross
1943 - Carol Jean WOODWARD - Croft House Ross on Wye
1943 - Isaac Charles NEALE - Croft House, Ross on Wye
1965 - Leslie Theodore HAWTHORN - Croft House Hill Street, Ross

and Marriages

Henry Vernall GUNTER - 15 March 1921

Bachelor Driver, Croft House Ross on Wye

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There are a family of WILLOGHBY's on the 1911 census at Croft House, Hill Street, Ross
The houses before was a KEARSAY family at Raiman House, Hill Street, and the house after Croft House, is a William HAYES at Corpus Christi Lane.

FOD records - baptism at Ross on Wye - 13 August 1906

Charles Jeffrey KEARSEY - parents Edwin (Accountant) & Agnes - residence: Raiman House

If you put Crofts Ross on Wye in your search engine (images) lots of pics. will come up as of today. The houses c1835 are still there.

Thanks so much for both of your replies, we were in Ross last year & located several of the houses that the Minett family lived in over the years
Do you think Henry Street had anything to do with Henry Minett as he was a solicitor in the town for many years & served on several committee's?

Hi,
first let me say I'm NOT well-versed on the history of Ross, however your query intrigued me into searching the internet. I've looked at several sites wrt the history of Ross, however they are all tourism websites so no great detail,; sadly I couln't find a formal history website such as the Victorian british History site. Hence I have no idea when Henry Street was first named as such, does anyone else know please ?

One reference states "On each corner of Church Street once stood the former Griffin and the Great Inn, both associated with traditional stories that probably contained some grain of truth. The Griffin was said to have been visited by King Henry IV in 1399...."
http://herefordshire.greatbritishlife.co.uk/article/high-up-above-the-river-herefordshi...

Church Street is not particularly near Henry Street, however personally as with George Street for example in Ross & elsewhere, I think it more likely they were named after monarchs rather than local businessmen, particularly if those Kings had visited the town. If not, surely Minett Street would be more appropriate ?

I have searched both the "Minett" name and "Henry Street" in old trade directories to try and establish a link, but the two rarely seem to meet altho' thats no real indicator of course. If you're researching the Minett family in particular I recommend searching the directories, they were clearly influential in the town, from Thomas (Plasterer) in 1840 thro George Frederick (clerk) in 1890 and so on.
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/findbylocation.asp

I also found this Will which may perhaps be of interest.
"MINETT, William Henry[1] - 354 Albany Road, Camberwell, 6 Jan 1902.
Beneficiaries: wife Sophia Emily MINETT*; sons Henry William MINETT, Charles Frederick MINETT and Arthur James MINETT; daughter Sophia Ellen or Ellen Sophia MINETT.
Witnesses: Geo. E CLUSE, Elizabeth SINGLETON.
[1] William Henry MINETT was the first son of Henry MINETT, solicitor, of Ross-on-Wye.
Proved 8 Sep 1909."
http://willsdb.gukutils.org.uk/HEF/WillsM.html

Finally with regard to properly answering your query, I recommend contacting the local Museum at the Market House, hopefully they can help. Contact details etc here:
http://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/leisure/museums_galleries/2857.asp

Thanks Jeff for your comphrensive reply giving me lots to look at & think about. Its nice that a majority of the roads in Ross are still the same as back in the 1800's so walking round it is still possible to locate some of the buildings they lived or worked in.

This site is about the nearest you get to a history of the streets in Ross
http://www.ross-on-wye.com/index.php?page=ross_510-Henry_Street&pg=1

Thanks very much for this useful link, I have had a quick look but will go back & look at it again later.

Hi again Sue,
as Mint says there seems to be a bit of a blackhole on Tinternet wrt the history of Ross On Wye. Not surprisingly given it's attractive location and the importance of the Old "Wye Tour" and Rev Gilpin etc, there are plenty of "old photos" books about the town which may help you. If you search the usual online sources you'll find them, plus a few reference books which may well help you such as the "Story of Ross" by Heather Hurley who I quoted earlier:
Paperback: 208 pages
Publisher: Logaston Press; 1st edition (1 Nov 1999)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1873827113
ISBN-13: 978-1873827116
Unfortunately for this enquiry my large collection of FoD books doesnt yet extend to Ross, methinks that will change soon....
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Whereabouts are you ?. Perhaps your local library can help you ?

I ask as I live in West London so 120miles from Ross. However I'm near the main Borough library (within Middlesex), in their reference section they carry a bookcase full of the entire GB set of the old Victorian British History books which are superb, in addition to many other books not just local ones. I also have access to Surrey Libraries, like most counties nowadays Surrey has an excellent searchable stock website. This has enabled me to borrow many excellent books abt Gloucestershire and the Forest, for only a few pence reservation fees to move them to my nearest branch only 4 miles away. Some are quite rare so expensive to buy even secondhand, perhaps not surprisingly many havent been out on loan for years ! In fact I must recommend Surrey libraries above my own Middlesex ones: they have larger stock, they don't appear to have a limit wrt number of renewals which can be done online, and they even send out reminder emails to prevent one accidentally running up overdue fines !!! Like Middlesex librairies they also carry some more general but speciallist(aka expensive!) History reference tomes which are readable within the library.
For example, if you are in the Midlands, I suspect Worcestershire Libraries will carry books abt Ross, given as in recent years Herefordshire & Worcestershire were linked.
Finally, thorough internet searching can be rewarded by finding history/reference books that are readable on-line, particularly it seems from Universities etc in the USA. I'll try to attach a few links later..

# By complete coincidence (honest!) while searching for references to Rev. Gilpin & Ross, I found this website which mentions said book !!
http://www.rosscivic.org.uk/index.php?page=civic_510-William_Gilpin_and_The_Wye_Tour

Perhaps the Ross Civic Society is worth contacting ?. I've often emailed websites "out of the blue" when trying to research my own Family History, I find a polite friendly enquiry often yields great if not fantastic results from nice helpful people.
Which reminds me, did you visit or contact the Ross Museum ?

Hope this helps, Jeff

Thanks Jeff for your informative email. We did call into the History Centre last year when we were there & found out quite a bit of information, but as always one or two bits of info lead to dozens more questions to ask!!
I am up in the West Midlands but will have a look at what is available at my local libraries, you never know what I may find.

You're welcome Sue. pleased to help.
I've just read thro that Ross Site, it's excellent !, it's very informative and has some great potential sources of information. You can easily post your query direct on the website which must be worth a try, altho I think you are far more likely to get replies if you contact the History Society mentioned within the site. I suspect Hereford will also have a FH Society that will be worth Googling and contacting I'm sure.
I'm glad the Ross Museum was helpfull, altho I agree wrt sometimes this just gives more questions altho a nice "problem" to have. It must be worth emailing them your "new" query ?. In fact its quite possible this will get a better reply, eventually, than if you had asked it in person, as it will probably be answered by "the" person in the know within their Society, rather than whoever happens to be manning the counter astwere.
The Ross Civic Society website gives contact details for the Ross Gazette newspaper, an open letter to them with your query may well gain good results, also to the Hereford Times perhaps ?
http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/local/rossonwye/

The Genuki site is often helpful for finding FHS links to contact, in this case it even gives more detail about the aforementioned "Story of Ross" book.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Ross/index.html
(Please be assured I do NOT have any personal or professional links with this book or it's authors).

The Genuki site's Gazetteer section is particularly detailed and gives an excellent detailed historical account albeit from a one hundred year-old viewpoint. It mentions the town was "made a free Borough by Henry III".
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Ross/Gaz1868.html

Only yesterday I learnt the nursery rhyme about "Doctor Foster going to Gloster" was allegedly based on Edward I born 1239, who fell into a deep puddle while visiting Gloster and angrily vowed to never return; Edward Longshanks was Henry III's son, so perhaps the story of father Henry III visiting Ross hence "naming" the Street is true ?

HTH, Jeff

Sue, I know it's years since the original post, but you may not be aware that Lottery Funding has enabled the Ross Gazette to be digitised. It is absolutely free and a great resource, especially for Family Historians.
I have just entered Minett and found 72 pages of results. There are far more than for the average person as he was a solicitor and he is mentioned for any court cases that he was involved in.
The site is a little slow and I have reported this to Herefordshire Council, but be prepared for that.

https://herefordshirehistory.org.uk/search?search_tab_open=&attributeset=90&col...