Ida Mabel ROBERTS m Albert LEE, Drybrook 1928 (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Thursday, October 25, 2012, 02:50 (4408 days ago) @ m p griffiths

From this site's PRs, your grandparents' Marriage:

Record_ID: 83619
Entry_Number: 148
Year: 1928
Month: Feb
Day: 4
Grooms_Surname: LEE
Grooms_Forenames: Albert
Grooms_Age: 26
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Farmington
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: LEE
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Carter
Brides_Surname: ROBERTS
Brides_Forenames: Ida Mabel
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Drybrook
Brides_Fathers_Surname: ROBERTS
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel Paul
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Daisy Roberts
Witness_2: Cecil Albert Roberts
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: F M Williams Rector of Mitcheldean
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Grooms father is deceased
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 74
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex_Groom: L000
Soundex_Bride: R163

Also from GlosBMD:

Marriage DetailsGroom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
LEE Albert ROBERTS Ida Mabel Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity 1928 6 148

So confirming it was at Holy Trinity Church, aka the important "Forest Church", on what was then called Harry, now Harrow Hill.
This site has three "photos" of the Church, note the first is from an old book available to read on this site.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/churches/pages/page_21.html

I cannot find any local Baptism records for Albert & Ida's children on any free site. Did they leave the area ?. Searching UK wide on FreeBMD gives this possible firstborn son, is "Bourne" aka Bourneville in Birmingham relevant I wonder, Robin ?.

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1928
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Lee Albert Roberts Birmingham N. 6d 797

[UPDATE: Oops sorry Robin, it's "Bourton" not Bourne isn't it, so the above is clearly irrelevant, ah well. I guess that means you're maybe still in the Cotwolds area not Birmingham, rather a different "model village"!, sorry].

So searching FreeBMD in North Glos gives these more likely births:

Surname First name(s) Mother District
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Births Dec 1929
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Lee Nancy M Roberts Northleach
(GlosBMD confirms this is Nancy MARY Lee)

Giving from GlosBMD;

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
AYRES Robert W C LEE Nancy M North Cotswolds Lower Slaughter St Mary 1956 1 210

Hence;

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
AYRES Robin G AYRES AYRES LEE 1958 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham North 4A 43

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Births Dec 1932
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Lee William T Roberts Dursley

Giving;

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
LEE William T DAY Barbara D Stroud Dursley St James 1954 C13/4 180

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Searching this FoD site's PRs for Albert & Ida's marriage witnesses(Roberts=family?) I see Cecil is apparently Ida's brother:

Record_ID: 104268
Entry_Number: 54
Year: 1935
Month: Apr
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: Cecil Albert
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: The Hawthorns
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Roberts
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel Paul
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner deceased
Brides_Surname: ROBERTS
Brides_Forenames: Kathleen Freda
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Drybrook
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Roberts
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Richard G Roberts
Witness_2: Leslie James Rudge
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George R Newman Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN1/22
Page_Number: 27
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex_Groom: R163
Soundex_Bride: R163

From GlosBMD site,
Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
ROBERTS Cecil Albert ROBERTS Kathleen Freda Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity 1935 7 54

Free Ancestry search page shows an Ida Mabel Lee in Glos passing away 1983.

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We see that Ida & Cecil's father Samuel Paul Roberts is "deceased" by 1935. From this site's PRs;

Record_ID: 250002
Entry_Number: 1511
Year: 1932
Month: Jan
Day: 23
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Samuel Paul
Residence: Hawthorns
Age_at_death: 68 years
Officiating_Minister: George R Newman Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/14
Page_No: 189
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: R163

Record_ID: 1005310
Entry_Number: 319
Year: 1971
Month: May
Day: 6
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Cecil Albert
Residence: High St Drybrook
Age_at_death: 63
Officiating_Minister: H G E Hiscox
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/31
Page_No: 40
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: R163

Ida's other marriage witness could have been?:

Record_ID: 1008375
Entry_Number: 412
Year: 1940
Month: Apr
Day: 10
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Daisy May
Residence: Morse Road Drybrook
Age_at_death: 42
Officiating_Minister: A G Partridge
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: Date of burial a guess
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/38
Page_No: 52
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: R163

Which fit's the Baptism above.

Or from GlosBMD could be this (different?) Daisy Roberts ?
Marriage Details
Number of entries matching criteria entered: 1

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
RUDGE Harold Thomas ROBERTS Gwendoline Daisy Ruth Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity 1944 8 30
(NB this Daisy marries a Rudge, as was Cecil's witness above, so..?).