Much Marcle baptism entry - second opinion please (General)

by hesione @, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 18:27 (4402 days ago)

Does any kind soul have access to the Much Marcle baptism register? I have a problem. The database shows the baptism of Richard Parry on 17 February 1733/4 the son of John and Ann. When I looked at the register many years ago I saw a different name (I'm not going say what I saw because I don't want to suggest something to anyone who might help). Can anybody take a look and confirm/deny that the name given is Richard?

Many thanks

Sara White


Record_ID: 343226
Entry_Number:
Year: 1734
Month: Feb
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Old style date 1733/4
Register_Reference: AG56/4
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Much Marcle

PARRY - Much Marcle

by m p griffiths @, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 20:31 (4402 days ago) @ hesione

Parish Record Correction Request

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/?Contact_Us

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Sydney WILKES - website, has the PARRY/HILL tree - and gives Edward PARRY's birth as 1734

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/i/l/Sydney-E-Wilkes-Northumberland/index.html

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Have you viewed the National Archives (Google A2a)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/

Search: Parry Much Marcle - files inc.

'Creators: Parry family of Much Marcle, Herefordshire; Hill family of Herefordshire; Bowyer family of Bristol; Curwen family of Bristol'

16 March 1787

Contents:

Signed copy of entries in the parish registers of Much Marcle, co Hereford giving the burial of John PARRY sen., and the baptisms of his children, John, Richard, Edward, Mary and Martha. Pinned to it is a piece of paper giving the baptism and marriage of Elizabeth HILL and baptism of James HILL. Pencil note that Edward PARRY's daughter married into the HILL family.


19 November 1787

:Power of Attorney

1. Richard, Edward and Martha PARRY, Mary the wife of John JONES and Joseph and Samuel TAYLOR, surviving sons of Samuel TAYLOR and Ann his wife (decd) nee PARRY, being the children and grandchildren of John PARRY of Much Marcle, Co. Hereford. decd. and the next of kin of John PARRY, mariner decd, another son of John PARRY, and formerly of the privateer, "The Hardwicke, and the ship, 'The New Severn.

these are held at the Bristol Records office.


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Looking at the baptisms at Much Marcle on the FOD records - there are two sons named Richard - one of which should be Edward?

PARRY - Much Marcle - John & Ann

Mary - 1721
John - 1724
Anne - 1725
Richard - 1731
Richard - 1734
Martha - 1737

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FOD record have a baptism at Much Marcle : Edward - 27 September 1778, parents Edward & Nancy

Much Marcle baptism entry - second opinion please

by grahamdavison @, Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:09 (4401 days ago) @ hesione

I have looked at my photo of the register and the entry is quite faint. All I can say is that the chid`s forename ends ....ard, so it could be either Richard or Edward. The only way to resolve this would be to have another look at the original register. If you email me I will send you a copy of the image.

Much Marcle baptism entry - second opinion please

by unknown, Thursday, November 08, 2012, 03:32 (4394 days ago) @ hesione

Dear Sara and other interested Parry researchers, this is my first time on this forum. I am in the midst of Much Marcle Parry family at present. A Herefordshire resident who is most probably my distant cousin, through John Parry and Ann Jones, has kindly looked up for me the records that are of interest to you. I hold in my hand right now a very faint copy of the 1734 Much Marcle Parish Records - the Parry in question was Edward Parry. Edward went on to marry Ann Lewis (sometimes known as Nancy). In Bristol, there is a file called the Parry, Hill, Bowyer and Curwen records - if you can't find it, I will send you a link. I am considering asking Bristol if I can buy the relevant Parry document copies so I can access it from Australia, where I am. My interest in the Parry family comes from my greatX4 grandfather who was born in Much Marcle in 1778. The interesting thing is that he was always known to our family as Edward PERRY. However, it appears that he was born Edward PARRY. This is a long story. I am happy to correspond with anyone interested. Being a novice on this, I don't know how to go back and look at the other enquiries about the Parry family, but you can contact me on alis.pianoforteATgmail.com if you like. My ancestry Tree is usually private, but I've made it public temporarily to allow contacts I am currently making to access my Tree, which is Perry Drysdale et al. If you look up Edward Perry and wife Sarah Drysdale married 1802, you should find me - and quite a lot of my Parry research too. I am now in the process of correcting mistakes, so be careful where you tread. Regards, Alis

PARRY - Much Marcle

by unknown, Thursday, November 08, 2012, 03:45 (4394 days ago) @ m p griffiths

I have a copy of the wills of both John Parry of Much Marcle and his son Edward Parry, also of Much Marcle. John Parry left his estate, unconditionally, to his daughter Martha. She sold a Much Marcle property in 1794 to Thomas Charles. There was some legal drama about it. This is in the "Swindon" file. Edward Parry left his property to his wife Ann, for her life, and then to his daughter Elizabeth Hill (and her heirs). He briefly mentioned his son Richard in the will - Richard was to be able to have a room and the use of the Lower Garden for life, on certain conditions. It is all in the will (also from Swindon). There may well have been a family estrangement.

Here is some archival information re the Parry family of Much Marcle:

Parry files in Swindon, Wiltshire
alispiano added this to John Parry on 2 Nov 2012
Reference 1720 Covering dates c.1190 - 1981 Held by Wiltshire and Swindon Archives Extent 1130 files Source of acquisition The Money-Kyrle family of Whetham, Calne Creators Money-Kyrle family of Whetham, Wiltshire; Kyrle, Money-, family of Whetham, Wiltshire Dobbins Well and The Elms [no ref. or date] [no title] 1720/338 1815-1848 Contents: Six deeds of the cottages called The Elms (later Elm House) and Dobbins Well. Include copy wills of Edward Parry, labourer (proved 1815) and Richard Hill, thatcher (proved 1838). [no title] 1720/373 1704-1734, 1770, 1774 Contents: Nine leases of various cottages and tenements. Walton's, Puckmore's and Gibbons' Farms are mentioned in a 1704 lease and Alway's cottage in 1720. The 1774 item contains a bond, letter, rough plan and abstract of William Gammond's title to Redstreak Orchard, near Grigg's Pit, from 1690 onwards. Parties: Ernle, Hooper, Elton, Mayo, Shaile, Parry, Powell, Andrews, Sergeant, Gammond. [no title] 1720/374 1794-1816, 1845, 1860, 1866 Contents: Ten deeds, mostly concerning a house, later divided into two, owned by Thomas Parry in 1794. Includes a tenancy agreement for a newly-built cottage on the south-western side of Marcle Street (1816), and a legal opinion. Parties: Parry, Charles, Collins, Taylor, Money, Gammond, Preece, Archer, Money-Kyrle. This file is much more extensive than my few references to the Parry Family of Much Marcle. (Alison Stephenson: alis.pianoforte AT gmail.com)
Parry file in Bristol Records Office
alispiano added this to John Parry on 2 Nov 2012
Bristol Record Office You are here Parry, Hill, Bowyer and Curwen Families Parry, Hill, Bowyer and Curwen families The entire contents of this catalogue are shown below. Browse the hierarchical structure instead Reference 35900 Covering dates 1787-1932 Held by Bristol Record Office Extent 41 files Source of acquisition Deposited in the Bristol Record Office in May 1977 by Mrs. N.M. Gregory per Somerset Record Office. Creators Parry family of Much Marcle, Herefordshire; Hill family of Herefordshire; Bowyer family of Bristol; Curwen family of Bristol Contents: Family letters, journals, legal documents, hymns and sermons. [no title] 35900/1 1787 Mar. 16 2 docts. Contents: Signed copy of entries in the parish registers of Much Marcle, co. Hereford giving the burial of John Parry, sen., and the baptisms of his children, John, Richard, Edward, Mary and Martha. Pinned to it is a piece of paper giving the baptism and marriage of Elizabeth Hill and baptism of James Hill. Pencil note that Edward Parry's daughter married into the Hill family. [no title] 35900/2 1787 Nov. 19 1 doct. Contents: Power of attorney 1. Richard, Edward and Martha Parry, Mary the wife of John Jones and Joseph and Samuel Taylor, surviving sons of Samuel Taylor and Ann his wife (decd.) née Parry, being the children and grandchildren of John Parry of Much Marcle, co. Hereford, decd., and next of kin of John Parry, mariner, decd. another son of John Parry, and formerly of the privateer, "The Hardwicke", and the ship, "The New Severn". 2. William Holbrooke of Ledbury, co. Hereford, gent. To collect all monies due to the said John Parry, jun. [no title] 35900/3 (post 1786) 1 doct. Contents: Copy of a statement made by John and Sarah Nurthen of Newent, co. Glos., that in 1786 they read in the Gloucester Journal an advertisement by Mr. Reaks asking for the family of John and Ann Parry to apply to Lord Chancellor's Office for money bequeathed to them. Note: There are many more files in this extensive collection - much more of interest to the Hill Family (Alis)

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