Arthur Evan Constance, Longhope (General)

by jospp @, Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 17:01 (4387 days ago)

Arthur Evans Constance died 14/3/1920 at Gloucester Asylum, no burial record that I can find.He enlisted in the 13th Battalion the Gloucestershire Regiment 12/2/1915 and was discharged due to wounds on 7/7/1919 with Silver War Badge issued.No CWGC record as he died of pneumonia. Do you know if I can have access to Gloucester Asylum records at the Record Office? Do you know where he is likely to have been buried? Are Silver War Badge records at Kew? (I have copy of list from Ancestry)Thanks in advance.

Gloucester Lunatic Asylum - previous thread

by m p griffiths @, Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 18:15 (4387 days ago) @ jospp

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=14551

It would seem the 100 year rule may apply to Arthur Evan CONSTANCE records.

Probate on Ancestry


CONSTANCE Arthur Evan of Laburnum Cottage Longhope Gloucestershire, died 14 March 1920 at the County Asylum Gloucester.
Administration (with Will) Gloucester 1 April to Clara Anne Constance (wife of Evan Samuel CONSTANCE). Effects £151 3s. 7d.


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1911 Census Longhope,

CONSTANCE

Samuel - 50 Wood Sawyer British Turning Works, all born Glos. Longhope
Clara - 50
Arthur - 21 - Postman Government

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1891 Census, Longhope
Laburnum Cottage

CONSTANCE

Evan Samuel - 30 - Wood Sawyer - all born Longhope
Clara A - 30
May - 6
Florence W - 3
Arthur E - 1


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Longhope War Memorial

http://www.longhopevillage.co.uk/history/worldwar1/

Gloucester Lunatic Asylum - previous thread

by SUE LAWTON @, Thursday, November 15, 2012, 06:03 (4387 days ago) @ m p griffiths

The asylum records are definitely available at Glos Records, as I have had access to the original notes, but this was 1902.In your case the 100 years rule probably applies.

However, you may be able to apply to Gloucestershire Health people(sorry don't know who exactly)through Freedom of Information,to access information.If they will do this , you would have to supply proof of connection to the person,through birth certificates etc. and would have to convince them that no-one would be "harmed" by the revelation of information.

I did this,to find out the circumstances of an aunt of mine,who was in a large high-profile mental institution in the 1950s (not in Gloucestershire). As all family of that generation are dead and the aunt in question had no children,-- I supplied certificates to prove that 1)I am my father's daughter 2)My father was his father's son 3)My aunt was my father's father's daughter 4)My aunt was married to her husband 5)My aunt was dead 6)My aunt's husband was dead.

A bit involved, but worth a go.

Arthur Evan CONSTANCE, Longhope 1889- 1920

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, November 15, 2012, 10:11 (4386 days ago) @ jospp

Do you know if I can have access to Gloucester Asylum records at the Record Office?

If you are related rather than a general researcher then it should be possible

Do you know where he is likely to have been buried? Hie father and mother died in 1934 and 1943 and do not seem to be buried in Longhope - I wonder if they and Arthur were buried together ? Huntley or Nottingham perhaps ?

Name: Evan Samuel Constance & Clara Ann Watkins
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1882
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 664

Are Silver War Badge records at Kew? (I have copy of list from Ancestry)


Name: Arthur Evan Constance
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1889
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 257

CONSTANCE Arthur Evan
CONSTANCE WATKINS
1889 Gloucester Gloucester, Huntley 17 468

Name: Arthur E Constance
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Age at Death: 30
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 392

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Arthur Evan CONSTANCE, Longhope 1889- 1920

by jospp @, Thursday, November 15, 2012, 17:51 (4386 days ago) @ slowhands

Thank you for these replies. I have located records at the Glos Archives but they are not open, but.....has anyone obtained records under the Freedom of Information Act? I have had WW2 records this way (as a researcher not a relative)....
I am wondering if there was a burial site at Coney Hill hospital (not Coney Hill Cemetery)or, where are the crematoriam records??? Did they do cremations in 1920?

Arthur Evan CONSTANCE, Longhope 1889- 1920

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, November 15, 2012, 18:48 (4386 days ago) @ jospp

Thank you for these replies. I have located records at the Glos Archives but they are not open, but.....has anyone obtained records under the Freedom of Information Act? I have had WW2 records this way (as a researcher not a relative)....
I am wondering if there was a burial site at Coney Hill hospital (not Coney Hill Cemetery)or, where are the crematoriam records??? Did they do cremations in 1920?


Was he in Horton Rd Gloucester rather than Coney Hill Hospital ? - they were both operational at the time. http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=14551


I suspect that you will run into medical confidentiality issues for pre 1990 records as a non relative, FoI would not override medical confidentially.

http://www.2gether.nhs.uk/ is the correct NHS Foundation Trust - if they have the records, however we think they are archived.

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Arthur Evan CONSTANCE, Longhope 1889- 1920

by mrsbruso @, Saturday, November 17, 2012, 18:49 (4384 days ago) @ slowhands

He may not have been buried at the hospital.

My great grandfather was returned from the GLA, where he died, to Viney Hill for burial.

Might he be buried in a family plot?

Arthur Evan CONSTANCE, Longhope 1889- 1920

by jospp @, Wednesday, November 21, 2012, 15:59 (4380 days ago) @ mrsbruso

Thanks for your replies. I have written to the Medical Records office pleading my case so shall see what happens.

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