Thomas JONES circa 1830 Lydbrook area (General)

by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 14:09 (4311 days ago) @ Diane Wood

My gt gt Grandfather was Thomas Jones born Lydbrook or Walford abt 1832.
I have him married to Martha Timmis born abt 1821 Coppenhall
Cheshire, it was Martha's second marriage ,her first being to
Peter Charlesworth.
In 1861 Thomas Jones lived in Kidsgrove Stoke-on-Trent Staffordshire.
He worked as a Puddler in a Forge.
He continued to live in Stoke -on -Trent.
My problem comes as i can't trace him before 1861.
I have got all other information on my Ancestry tree.
Can you help please?

Regards Diane Wood.

1881
Martha Jones abt 1824 Coppenhall, Cheshire, England Mother in Law Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire
Sarah E. Jones abt 1862 Kidsgrove, Staffordshire, England Sister in Law Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire

1871 Hanley Staffs
Thomas Jones 40 Walford
Martha Jones 48
Sarah Ellen Jones 9

1861
Thomas Jones abt 1832 Lidbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Brieryhurst, Staffordshire
Martha Jones abt 1824 Coppenhall, Cheshire, England Wife Brieryhurst, Staffordshire
John Charlesworth abt 1845 Coppenhall, Cheshire, England Stepson Brieryhurst, Staffordshire
Mary Charlesworth abt 1848 Coppenhall, Cheshire, England Stepdaughter Brieryhurst, Staffordshire
Joseph Charlesworth abt 1851 Coppenhall, Cheshire, England Stepson Brieryhurst, Staffordshire

There are a couple of possible in the parish record transcriptions.

and in census data _

1851
Thomas Jones abt 1832 Walford, Herefordshire, England Visitor Yatton, Herefordshire Ag lab

appeared a better fit ,but its looking like watford not walford

Whitesmith / tinsmith is sometimes a clue to a traveller family
1861
John Jones abt 1818 Watford, Hertfordshire, England Boarder Taddington, Derbyshire
John Jones abt 1846 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Boarder Taddington, Derbyshire
Emma Jones abt 1850 Watford, Hertfordshire, England Boarder Taddington, Derbyshire

1851
John Jones abt 1820 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire White smith
Mary Ann Jones abt 1820 Little Heath, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire
Thomas Jones abt 1835 Watford, Herefordshire, England Son Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire Silk Joiner ?
Robert Jones abt 1837 Watford, Herefordshire, England Son Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire
Martha Jones abt 1839 Halton, Essex, England Daughter Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire
John Jones abt 1847 Malley, Yorkshire, England Son Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire
Emma Jones abt 1849 Watford, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire

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