Can you please help ?
Dad - George Thornton Williams b.1917 now aged 95, had two elder brothers, Charlie b.1909 and Fred b.1907. They grew up at the cottages next to the Primitive Methodist Church in Church Road Cinderford, prior to moving to Belle Vue Road when he was about 12 years old.
Fred died a young man, (Dad can remember him being kicked by a horse in the head) and on a recent trip around the Forest, he mentioned that Fred fathered a child before he died and before he was married. The child - a girl, was born to Fred's fiance - Nellie (or Nelly) Davis (or Davies), who lived with her family in 'Speech House Cottages' - the one nearest Moseley Green. This cottage has been converted into holiday lets and now named 'Parkend Cottage'. (I am not sure which District Speech House Cottages would have been in back in the 1920's).
Dad thinks the girl grew up and went to live in America, but knows nothing of her name or her family as it was such a long time ago. The Williams family here would love to trace her or her family if at all possible. She would have probably been born in the early 20's.
Any help would be great
Thanks B. Wright

Baptism at Cinderford St John - 14 Jan 1918

George Thornton WILLIAMS

father: David Dornington

mother: Frances Elizabeth Jane

Residence: Cinderford

occupation: Collier

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1911 Census - Ruspidge, Cinderford, living in 2 rooms, married 5 years

WILLIAMS

David - 31 Coal Miner, Hewer
Frances - 27 (Frances Elizabeth J ANNETTS - married A/M/J Qtr 1906)
Frederick - 4
Charles - 2

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? FOD records

Burial at Cinderford St John - 17 June 1930

Frederick John Wynn WILLIAMS age 23

residence: Church Road East Dean

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Marriage at Cinderford St John - 27 February 1932

Clement Samuel WEAGER, age 29, Bachelor, Colliery Labourer, residence: Ruspidge Road ***

father: Joseph Herbert Clement WEAGER miner

married

Nellie DAVIS, age 28, Spinster
residence: Speech Ho Cotts

father: Edward James DAVIS, Collier

witnesses: John Rodley DAVIS, and Edwin James DAVIS

Notes: Best guess at Groom's Surname (Freebdm - surname given as WEAGER)

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Freebdm - have two children WEAGER/DAVIS

Diane V - 1933 and Marigold - 1936 - Westbury on Severn

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Ancestry Death Index: Clement Samuel WEAGER - J/A/S Qtr 1975 - Gloucester - age 72 - Birth date 20 November 1902)

Baptism at Cinderford St John - 14 Jan 1918

George Thornton WILLIAMS

father: David Dornington

mother: Frances Elizabeth Jane

Residence: Cinderford

occupation: Collier

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1911 Census - Ruspidge, Cinderford, living in 2 rooms, married 5 years

WILLIAMS

David - 31 Coal Miner, Hewer
Frances - 27 (Frances Elizabeth J ANNETTS - married A/M/J Qtr 1906)
Frederick - 4
Charles - 2

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? FOD records

Burial at Cinderford St John - 17 June 1930

Frederick John Wynn WILLIAMS age 23

residence: Church Road East Dean

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Marriage at Cinderford St John - 27 February 1932

Clement Samuel WEAGER, age 29, Bachelor, Colliery Labourer, residence: Ruspidge Road ***

father: Joseph Herbert Clement WEAGER miner

married

Nellie DAVIS, age 28, Spinster
residence: Speech Ho Cotts

father: Edward James DAVIS, Collier

witnesses: John Rodley DAVIS, and Edwin James DAVIS

Notes: Best guess at Groom's Surname (Freebdm - surname given as WEAGER)

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Freebdm - have two children WEAGER/DAVIS

Diane V - 1933 and Marigold - 1936 - Westbury on Severn

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Ancestry Death Index: Clement Samuel WEAGER - J/A/S Qtr 1975 - Gloucester - age 72 - Birth date 20 November 1902)

1891
Samuel Burgum abt 1862 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Lucy Burgum abt 1864 May Hill, Herefordshire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Burgum abt 1881 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Burgum abt 1882 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary J Burgum abt 1883 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Burgum abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Burgum abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Lucy Burgum abt 1889 Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1901
Thomas Davis abt 1837 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Davis abt 1859 Cinderford Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Violet A Lovindge abt 1894 Cinderford Stepdaughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin J Davis abt 1881 Exeter, Devon, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=198

Name: Edwin James R Davis & Mary Jane Burgham
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Registration district: Crickhowell
Inferred County: Breconshire
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 184

Year 1905
Month Jan
Day 29
Parents Surname DAVIES
Child Forenames Mary Jane Radley
Fathers Forenames Edwin James Radley
Mothers Forenames Mary Jane Radley
Mothers Surname
Residence East Dean Gloster
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister D. Rowse
Event Baptism
Memoranda In Ruardean Chapel
Notes Not sure if name is Radley - Davies
Register Reference D2598 5/6
Page Number 65
Parish Chapel Forest of Dean Bible Christian

Name: Ellen May Davis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1906
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 297

Year: 1909
Month: Nov
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: DAVIS
Child_Forenames: Ellen May Radley
Fathers_Forenames: Edwin James Radley
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Jane Radley
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruspidge
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: F W Cresswell Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 296
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

Year: 1910
Month: Dec
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: DAVIS
Child_Forenames: Ethel Beatrice
Fathers_Forenames: Edwin James Radley
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bells Lane Ruspidge
Occupation: miner
Officiating_Minister: F W Baldwin vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 11
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

1911 Ruspidge, Cinderford, Gloucester
Edward J Davis 28 Exeter
Mary J Davis 26 East Dean
Ellen May Davis 4 East Dean
John Davis 2 East Dean
Ethel B A Davis 5/12 East Dean

Year: 1932
Month: Feb
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: WEAGER
Grooms_Forenames: Clement Samuel
Grooms_Age: 29
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: colliery labr
Grooms_Residence: Ruspidge Rd
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: WEAGER
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph Herbert Clement
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: miner
Brides_Surname: DAVIS
Brides_Forenames: Nellie
Brides_Age: 28
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Speech Ho Cotts
Brides_Fathers_Surname: DAVIS
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Edward James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: John Rodley Davis
Witness_2: Edwin James Davis
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: C Paul Glidden
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Best guess at Groom`s Surname
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 46
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

Name: Ellen May Weager
Birth Date: 2 May 1906
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1976
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1589

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Can you please help ?
Dad - George Thornton Williams b.1917 now aged 95, had two elder brothers, Charlie b.1909 and Fred b.1907. They grew up at the cottages next to the Primitive Methodist Church in Church Road Cinderford, prior to moving to Belle Vue Road when he was about 12 years old.
Fred died a young man, (Dad can remember him being kicked by a horse in the head) and on a recent trip around the Forest, he mentioned that Fred fathered a child before he died and before he was married. The child - a girl, was born to Fred's fiance - Nellie (or Nelly) Davis (or Davies), who lived with her family in 'Speech House Cottages' - the one nearest Moseley Green. This cottage has been converted into holiday lets and now named 'Parkend Cottage'. (I am not sure which District Speech House Cottages would have been in back in the 1920's).
Dad thinks the girl grew up and went to live in America, but knows nothing of her name or her family as it was such a long time ago. The Williams family here would love to trace her or her family if at all possible. She would have probably been born in the early 20's.
Any help would be great
Thanks B. Wright

WILLIAMS David Dorrington
ANNETTS Frances Elizabeth Jane
Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office
1906 13 167

Name: Frederick John W Williams
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1906
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 286

1911 Ruspidge
David Williams 31
Frances Williams 27
Frederick Williams 4
Charles Williams 2

other siblings :-
George T Williams Jan-Feb-Mar 1918 Westbury S Shropshire
Reginald J Williams Jul-Aug-Sep 1924 Westbury S Shropshire

Name: Frederick J W Williams
Birth Date: abt 1907
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1930
Age at Death: 23
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 297

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Can you please help ?
Dad - George Thornton Williams b.1917 now aged 95, had two elder brothers, Charlie b.1909 and Fred b.1907. They grew up at the cottages next to the Primitive Methodist Church in Church Road Cinderford, prior to moving to Belle Vue Road when he was about 12 years old.
Fred died a young man, (Dad can remember him being kicked by a horse in the head) and on a recent trip around the Forest, he mentioned that Fred fathered a child before he died and before he was married. The child - a girl, was born to Fred's fiance - Nellie (or Nelly) Davis (or Davies), who lived with her family in 'Speech House Cottages' - the one nearest Moseley Green. This cottage has been converted into holiday lets and now named 'Parkend Cottage'. (I am not sure which District Speech House Cottages would have been in back in the 1920's).
Dad thinks the girl grew up and went to live in America, but knows nothing of her name or her family as it was such a long time ago. The Williams family here would love to trace her or her family if at all possible. She would have probably been born in the early 20's.
Any help would be great
Thanks B. Wright

Reginald J Williams ( mother ANNETTS)
Jul-Aug-Sep 1924
Westbury S Shropshire

suspected marriages :-
WILLIAMS Reginald John
CROSS Valerie Margaret Elizabeth
Forest of Dean Cinderford Woodside St Stephen
1956 5 27

WILLIAMS Reginald John
HALE Maureen Daphne
PHELPS Maureen Daphne
Forest of Dean Forest of Dean Register Office (post 1974)
1975 1 214

Name: Reginald John Williams
Birth Date: 23 Aug 1924
Date of Registration: May 1985
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1787

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1901
Thomas Davis abt 1837 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Davis abt 1859 Cinderford Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Violet A Lovindge abt 1894 Cinderford Stepdaughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin J Davis abt 1881 Exeter, Devon, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=198

Name: Edwin James Davis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1881
Registration district: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 104

1881
George Thomas Davis abt 1841 Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England Head Exeter St Paul, Devon
Fanney Davis abt 1854 Hookford, Devon, England Wife Exeter St Paul, Devon
William G. Davis abt 1880 Exeter Son Exeter St Paul, Devon
James T. Davis abt 1881 Exeter Son Exeter St Paul, Devon

1891
George Thos Davis abt 1838 Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England Head Christchurch, Monmouthshire
Fanny Davis abt 1851 Hookford, Devon, England Wife Christchurch, Monmouthshire
William G Davis abt 1880 Exeter; St Pauls, Devon, England Son Christchurch, Monmouthshire
Edwin J Davis abt 1881 Exeter; St Pauls, Devon, England Son Christchurch, Monmouthshire
Margaret A Davis abt 1884 Exeter; St Pauls, Devon, England Daughter Christchurch, Monmouthshire
Samuel T Davis abt 1887 St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Christchurch, Monmouthshire
Eliza J Davis abt 1888 St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Christchurch, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Davis abt 1890 Christchurch, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Christchurch, Monmouthshire

Name: Sarah Ann Loveridge & George Thomas Davis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1897
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 497

1901
Thomas Davis abt 1837 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Davis abt 1859 Cinderford Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Violet A Lovindge abt 1894 Cinderford Stepdaughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin J Davis abt 1881 Exeter, Devon, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Edwin J R Davis
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 307

Year: 1946
Month: Aug
Day: 30
Surname: DAVIS
Forenames: Edwin James Radley
Residence: The Cottages Speech House
Age_at_death: 65 y[ea]rs
Officiating_Minister: L R S Wring [?] Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: 31/46 written in margin
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/16
Page_No: 7
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

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who lived with her family in 'Speech House Cottages' - the one nearest Moseley Green. This cottage has been converted into holiday lets and now named 'Parkend Cottage'. (I am not sure which District Speech House Cottages would have been in back in the 1920's).

on the Parkend road leading away from Speech House

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2478414

Speech House Cottages, Speech House, Coleford, Gloucestershire, England GL16 7EJ

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Thank you for your info Slowhands, will pass on to Dad to see if this will jog his memory

Thank you so much. I will inform Dad and see if it will jog his memory.

If you search birth registrations 1925 + or - 5 years and 1931 + or - 1 year for child DAVIS with mother's maiden name DAVIS in the Westbury on Severn and Monmouth Registration Districts, the two most likely Districts to register the birth, there are none.
Ditto on the chance that she may have been registered as WILLIAMS with mother's maiden name DAVIS.

If you search birth registrations 1925 + or - 5 years and 1931 + or - 1 year for child DAVIS with mother's maiden name DAVIS in the Westbury on Severn and Monmouth Registration Districts, the two most likely Districts to register the birth, there are none.
Ditto on the chance that she may have been registered as WILLIAMS with mother's maiden name DAVIS.

there are a few possibles ....

Elsie M Davies Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Westbury S Shropshire

Elsie Davis Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Westbury S. Shropshire

Gladys M Davis Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Westbury S. Shropshire

Eunice Davis Oct-Nov-Dec 1922 Westbury S Shropshire

Ruth J Davis Jul-Aug-Sep 1932 Westbury S Shropshire ( probably too late)

Nancy Mdt Davies Oct-Nov-Dec 1922 Westbury S Shropshire

Doris M Davies Apr-May-Jun 1927 Westbury S. Shropshire

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Also checked as DAVIES with mother's maiden name DAVIES and WILLIAMS/DAVIES combination for the same period without positive result.
Slowhands, bear in mind that Frederick John Wynne WILLIAMS was born 1907 so he would have been 13 to 15 years of age at the time of the possibles suggested.

Also checked as DAVIES with mother's maiden name DAVIES and WILLIAMS/DAVIES combination for the same period without positive result.
Slowhands, bear in mind that Frederick John Wynne WILLIAMS was born 1907 so he would have been 13 to 15 years of age at the time of the possibles suggested.

Fred was born in 1906, so 1920 births onwards are possibles - unlikely maybe but should not be ruled out :-)

Fred dies in 1930, his fiancee Nelly marries in 1932 - so I would expect a birth in the 1925 - 1929 timeframe, but would not rule out an earlier birth.

My suspicion is that the birth was registered away from the Forest, not uncommon for unmarried mothers to "go away" for the birth.

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Thank you for your advice. will try