I am a little confused with John's life and wonder if someone can help resolve some queries.

I have his birth as 1842 in Alvington, however, I can not find any Birth record for him.

I have a baptism 7 December 1842 in Alvington.

The next thing I know he was living with his brother Joseph at Small Brook, Woolaston from Census 1881. In the census it is stated John is a widower.

I can not find any marriages for him prior to this date. Did John have any children with his first wife?

I can see a marriage of John Grail to Elizabeth Ann Williams on 15 August 1901 at Woolaston.

Elizabeth Ann Williams state is also listed a widow. Her fathers name is David Jones. I have looked for her previous marriage and find hundreds of marriages between Williams and Elizabeth Jones between 1860 and 1900.

'I can see a marriage of John GRAIL to Elizabeth Ann WILLIAMS (father's name David JONES) 15 August 1901 at Woolaston

1911 Wales Census, Woolaston, living in 4 rooms

John GRAIL - 65, born Yorkley, Glos
Elizabeth Ann GRAIL - 66 - born Carleon, Monmouthshire (assume nee WILLIAMS)
Edward GRAIL - brother - 73, born Malmesbury, Wiltshire

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Elizabeth Ann WILLIAMS is on the 1891 Census, at Glos. Woolaston as a Lodger, 47 Widow, Dressmaker, born Caerleon, Monmouthshire, just a few doors away from Edward GRAIL and his family.

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1851 Wales Census
Monmouthshire, Ifton, Burnes Trump?

JANES/JONES

David - 37 - occupation: Smith - born Trevethin (father's occupation Blacksmith, on Wedding Entry)
Ruth A - 36 - born Swansea, Glamorgan
Elizabeth - 7 - born Caerleon, Monmouthshire
Francis D - 4 - born Portewett, Monmouthshire
Mary J - 1 - born Ifton

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Marriage : John GREY - 14 December 1864 at Woolaston

John GREY - Full age, Bachelor, labourer, residence: Woolaston

father Richard GREY - labourer

married

Elizabeth CLUTTERBUCK, full age, Spinster, residence: Woolaston

father: Stephen CLUTTERBUCK, labourer

by banns

witnesses: mark of Joseph GREY and George SMITH

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1871 Census, Woolaston

GRAIL

Joseph - 29 - born Malesmbury Wilts
John - 27 - Widw - born Yorkley, Glos
Ruth - Sister - 15 or 17
Harriet - Niece - 6 born Woolaston (Glosbdm: Harriet GRAY 1865 - mother's maiden name: CLUTTERBUCK **** see marriage below to Joseph TYRELL

(more GRAIL family next door)

There is also a William GRAIL - 1865 - mother's maiden name CLUTTERBUCK

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On FOD Records - there is a burial of an Eliza GRAIL at Woolaston age 30 - 23 August 1868
and burial of Eliza GRAIL age 2 w - 6 September 1868

? Eliza seems to have died after childbirth.

Gloucestershirebdm: Eliza GRAIL 1868 - mother's maiden name CLUTTERBUCK

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1861 England Census Woolaston, surnamed transcribed as GRAILL

Richard - 45
Keria - 44
Joseph - 19
John - 17
Frederick - 16
Mary Ann - 10
Ruth - 7
Elizabeth - 5

and 1851 Wales Census

Woolaston

GRAIL

Richard - 37 - Wilts, Chippenham
Keziah - 37 - Malmesbury
Edward - 14 - Westport,
Joseph - 10 Westport, Wiltshire
John - 8 - West Dean
Frederick - 6 - Arlingham
Richard - 4
Mary Ann - 1

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Harriet GRAIL, daughter of John GRAIL and Eliza nee CLUTTERBUCK... (age 6 1871 census)

Marriage at Woolaston - 17 February 1885

Joseph TYRELL age 20 - Labourer, residence: Woolaston

father: Amos (James TYRELL) - Labourer

married

Harriet GRAIL, age 20 - Spinster, residence: Woolaston

father: John GRAIL, Labourer

witnesses: George and Polly GRAIL

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FoD records - have 5 baptisms for children of Joseph & Harriett TYRELL - at Woolaston

Mary Elizabeth - 1886
Albert Henry - 1887
John Amos - 1889
Violet Annie - 1891
Emma - 1894

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1901 Census, Woolastone, Glos
Grange

TYRELL

Joseph - 36, Carter on Farm
Harriet - 36
Mary - 14
Henry - 13
John - 11
Joseph - 8
Emma - 7
Frances - 5
Frederick - 3
Alice - 2
Maggie - 9 months

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Have just checked there are Public Members Trees for Joseph TYRELL and Harriet GRAIL it would seem one tree has Harriet's father's name incorrect.

and from this the 1911 census, Woolasto

42 Woolaston Grange Near Lydney

Living in 2 rooms - married 26 years, 13 children born alive, 1 dead

TERRELL

Joseph - 46
Harriet - 46
Jack - 21
Fred - 13
Alice - 11
Margeret - 10
William - 9
Eve - 5
Eli - 4

1861 Census, Woolaston
Lower Hamlet

Stephen CLUTTERBUCK - 73, Ag. Lab. born Berkeley
Eliza - 23 - dau - born Woolaston
George W - Grandson - 7 months, born Woolaston

- 1871 Union Workhouse, Monmouth age 12, born Woolaston

- 1881 census back in Woolaston age 20 Lodger, in Berry Hill

- 1901 Census, West Dean, Coleford - Broadwell Lane End

CLUTTERBUCK

George - 40 - Stone Quarryman - born Woolaston
Lydia A - 35 - born West Dean ***
Ethel E - 9
George M - 7

- 1911 Wales Census, Broadwell Lane End, age 50 Coleford with wife Annie - 45 - children : Nelly 19 and George 17 (married 20 years)

Gloucestershire BDM

George CLUTTERBUCK married Lydia Ann WILLIAMS - Forest of Dean Register Office 1890.

Gloucestershirebdm

CLUTTERBUCK/WILLIAMS births:

George Marfell CLUTTERBUCK - 1893 Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
Ethel Ellen CLUTTERBUCK - 1891 ditto

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Fod records, Baptism at Christchurch: 11 June 1865

Lydia Ann WILLIAMS
parents: George, Stone cutter and Jane : residence Lane End

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1871 Census, West Dean

George Marfell WILLIAMS - 32, Stone Cutter, born East Dean
Jane - 30
Lydia Ann - 5
Benjamin - 4
George - 1

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1851 Census, Wales Woolaston

Stephen CLUTTERBUCK - 63, Ag Lab. born Berkeley
Elizabeth - 55 - born Woolaston
Eliza - 13 - born Woolaston
James CROSS, lodger 22

1841 Census, England, Woolaston

CLUTTERBUCK

Stephen - 45 - Publican - all born in County
Elizabeth - 45
James - 10
Margaret - 9
Emma - 6
Eliza - 4

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FoD records

Marriage at Woolaston: 13 December 1819

Stephen CLUTTERBUCK - residence: Woolaston
Elizabeth CRADDOCK - ditto

witnesses: Ann SPRING/Joseph CHEAR

Wow Marilyn, I'd never of thought of search Grey for Grail. It's funny how all spelling for Grail all come back to Grail at some point in time. Maybe it's the way they spoke when giving their name that leads to different spelling. Great work, I appreciate your help
Steve