Hi,
I am researching James Bishop and family, his wife Margret (Coles/cole) was from USK, Monmouthshire. Where would I find records? There seems to be an overlap in records but I have hit a brick wall. Any information would be gratefully received.
Thanks

Public Members Tree Ancestry -

Margret Emma COLES 1853-1890

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1881 Census, Allastone, Lydney

BISHOP

James - 36 - Pudler Iron Mfg. Iron Work - born Staffordshire, Keever
Margaret - 28 - born Monmouthshire, Usk
Elizabeth - 7 - born Monmouth, Caldicot
Ellen - 5 - Scholar - born ditto
George BISHOP son - 3 - Staffordshire
John BISHOP - 1 month, Gloucestershire, Lydney

from this site's PRs:

Record_ID: 41339
Entry_Number: 171
Year: 1882
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: BISHOP
Child_Forenames: John William
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Primrose Hill
Occupation: Puddler
Officiating_Minister: R. Stevens Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: B210

Also on GlosBMD:

Birth Details
Number of entries matching criteria entered: 1

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BISHOP John William BISHOP BISHOP COLES 1881 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 17 409

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1861

Address Prospect Place
Parish Wolves Newton
District Chepstow, Shire-Newton
Administrative County Monmouthshire
Householder 1
Name William Cole
Age 28
Estimated Year of Birth 1833
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Carpenter
Birth Place Wolves Newton
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 2
Name Elizabeth Cole
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Llangwm
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 3
Name Margaret Cole
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1854
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Usk
Birth County Monmouthshire
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

From the free Latterday Saints site:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aj...

Possible wrt the 1881 Census above

name: James Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Oct 1844
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number:

DITTO

name: James Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Oct 1844
baptism/christening place: KINVER,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04869-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 435782, 435783
reference number:

NOTE! I can't find a place called "Keever" anywhere, transcription error ?

--- CENSUS's

name: James Bishop
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 16
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Wolverhampton
sub-district: 2 Kinfare
ecclesiastical parish: Kinver
civil parish: Kinver
county: Staffordshire

name: James Bishop
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 28
relationship to head of household: Lodger
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Chepstow
sub-district: Shirenewton
event parish: Caldicot Village End
county: Monmouthshire

name: James Bishop
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 56
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Westbury On Severn
sub-district: East Dean
ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
civil parish: East Dean
county: Gloucestershire

(Think this is my home church St Stephen = Cinderford/Woodside; photos are on this site.)

From this FoD site's PRs:
Could these be the same family, still in Cinderford ?

Record_ID: 87978
Entry_Number: 369
Year: 1888
Month: Feb
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BISHOP
Child_Forenames: Sarah Jane
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodside
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: C. W. Houlston
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Jul 11 1886
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2IN 1/1
Page_Number: 47
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex: B210

Record_ID: 87979
Entry_Number: 370
Year: 1888
Month: Feb
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BISHOP
Child_Forenames: Emma Frances
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodside
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: C. W. Houlston
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Oct 20 1887
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2IN 1/1
Page_Number: 47
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex: B210

(Cannot find any subsequent records re Sarah or Emma in FoD PRs)

Record_ID: 25169
Entry_Number: 231
Year: 1907
Month: Aug
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: BISHOP
Grooms_Forenames: George Henry
Grooms_Age: 29
Groom_Condition: B[achelor]
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Woodside
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Bishop
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: MURRELL
Brides_Forenames: Kate Rosalind
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: S[pinster]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Woodside
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Murrell
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: E. M. Leadbeater
Witness_2: F. Leadbeater
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W. H. M. Hancock
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 1N 1/6
Page_Number: 116
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex_Groom: B210
Soundex_Bride: M640

Or from GlosBMD:

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BISHOP George Henry MURRELL Kate Rosalind Forest of Dean Cinderford Woodside St Stephen 1907 1 231

So this George Bishop was 29yrs in 1907, so born abt 1878, father James.
George's age fits earlier 1881 Census record perfectly.
Cannot find any subsequent Baptisms re George & Kate in FoD PRs.

Re-searching LDS for George:

name: George Harry Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Oct 1878
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date: 04 May 1878
birthplace: Kinver, Stafford, England
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Margaret
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04869-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1471067
reference number: item 12 p 17

And GlosBMD:

Following Births Registered:

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BISHOP Emma Jane BISHOP BISHOP COLE 1883 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 51 234

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BISHOP Sarah Jane BISHOP BISHOP COLES 1886 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 55 69

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BISHOP Frances Emma BISHOP BISHOP COLE 1887 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 56 488

Marriage Details

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
THOMAS James BISHOP Emma Frances Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office 1908 14 90
(So just aged 21, but Registry Office = ?).

Marriages Sep 1853
COLE William Chepstow 11a 15
HARRY Elizabeth Chepstow 11a 15

Searching LDS for the couple gives following Census's:

John Bishop, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
name: John Bishop
age: 70
gender: Male
birth year: 1811
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Laborer In Iron Works
address: Potters Cross
census place: Kinver, Staffordshire, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341668
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2790 / 82
page number: 24
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head John Bishop M 70 Kinver, Staffordshire, England
wife Sarah Bishop F 63 Kinver, Staffordshire, England
son George Bishop M 31 Kinver, Staffordshire, England
son Samuel Bishop M 23 Kinver, Staffordshire, England
son Harry Bishop M 19 Kinver, Staffordshire, England
grand daughter Frances Bishop F 9 Kinver, Staffordshire, England
lodger Moses Thomas M 28 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England

John Bishop, "England and Wales Census, 1871"
name: John Bishop
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 60
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Wolverhampton
sub-district: Kinver
event parish: Kinver
county: Staffordshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head John Bishop M 60 Kinver, Staffordshire
wife Sarah Bishop F 57 Stow, Shropshire
son John Bishop M 15 Kinver, Staffordshire
son Samuel Bishop M 13 Kinver, Staffordshire
son Harry Bishop M 9 Kinver, Staffordshire

John Bishop, "England and Wales Census, 1861"
name: John Bishop
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 50
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Wolverhampton
sub-district: 2 Kinfare
ecclesiastical parish: Kinver
civil parish: Kinver
county: Staffordshire

John Bishop in household of John Bishop, "England and Wales Census, 1841"
name: John Bishop
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 30
birthplace: Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Wolverhampton & Seisdon
sub-district: Kinfare
civil parish: Kinfare
county: Staffordshire

Note Kinver & Kinfare are the same town, near the rivers & canals of Stourbridge so "en route" to Dean, lots of useful info here:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/Kinver/index.html

Also from LDS these look like their children:

name: John Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Jul 1855
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number: item 2 p 173

name: Samuel Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Feb 1858
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number:

name: Jane Bishop
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Sep 1852
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number: item 2 p 138

name: George Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Feb 1850
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number: item 2 p 107

name: Daniel Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 18 Jul 1847
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number: item 2 p 78

name: James Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Oct 1844
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number:

name: Emma Bishop
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 24 Apr 1842
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number:

name: George Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Feb 1850
baptism/christening place: KINVER,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04869-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 435782, 435783
reference number:

According to 1881 Census John was born abt 1811:

Again from LDS:

John Bishop, "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
name: John Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Nov 1810
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040763
reference number: item 14

Again searching LDS gives this likely parent's marriage:

James Bishop, "England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "
groom's name: James Bishop
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Elizabeth Boaz
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 29 Jan 1810
marriage place: Kinver,Stafford,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M04869-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 421560, 435782, 435783
reference number:

LDS appears to be listing several probable children for this couple, please see
https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajames%7...

Assuming Elizabeth wasn't previously married & Boaz IS her maiden name, LDS only gives ONE possible Baptism for her, but seems unlikely given the location, and of course there are many other possible surces that I don't have access to. Is Boaz/Bose a traveller(canal?) name I wonder ?

name: Elizabeth Boaz
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 1785
baptism/christening place: SCARBOROUGH, BTS, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
birth date: 1785
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Boaz
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C13565-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 919206
reference number: - 2:2P15R08

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Re the earlier post and John Bishop born 1855 (see above), I wonder if this could be his later marriage, found while browsing LDS results.

groom's name: John Bishop
groom's birth date: 1853
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 21
bride's name: Sarah Jackson
bride's birth date: 1857
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 17
marriage date: 18 May 1874
marriage place: Norton In The Moors,Stafford,England
groom's father's name: John Bishop
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Jackson
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01017-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1040780
reference number:

Altho this may be unrelated despite the similar dates & names, as Norton is near Stoke on Trent so t'other end of the County due North albeit easily accessible via the Trent & Canals ??

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/NortonintheMoors/index.html

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Hope this helps, good luck !

Public Members Tree Ancestry -

Margret Emma COLES 1853-1890

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1881 Census, Allastone, Lydney

BISHOP

James - 36 - Pudler Iron Mfg. Iron Work - born Staffordshire, Keever
Margaret - 28 - born Monmouthshire, Usk
Elizabeth - 7 - born Monmouth, Caldicot
Ellen - 5 - Scholar - born ditto
George BISHOP son - 3 - Staffordshire
John BISHOP - 1 month, Gloucestershire, Lydney

Year: 1906
Month: Jan
Day: 9
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: James
Residence: Bilson Green Cinderford
Age_at_death: 61 years
Officiating_Minister: James Sawton Vicar of Holy Trinity
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 134
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

Name: James Bishop
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1906
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 195

1901
James Bishop abt 1845 Kinver Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Bishop abt 1879 Kinver Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Bishop abt 1886 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Bishop abt 1888 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sydney Giles abt 1876 Caldicoat, Monmouthshire, Wales Son-in-law East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Giles abt 1876 Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert S Giles abt 1896 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen F Giles abt 1901 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Bishop abt 1842 Kinver Visitor East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
James Bishop abt 1852 Kinver, Staffordshire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Bishop abt 1875 Caldicote, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Bishop abt 1878 Kinver, Staffordshire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Bishop abt 1881 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Bishop abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Bishop abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1881
James Bishop abt 1845 Kinver, Staffordshire, England Head Lydney, Gloucestershire
Margeret Bishop abt 1853 Usk, Monmouth, Wales Wife Lydney, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Bishop abt 1874 Caldicot, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Ellen Bishop abt 1876 Caldicot, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
George Bishop J abt 1878 Staffordshire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire
John Bishop Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire

1871
James Bishop abt 1843 Kinver, Staffordshire, England Lodger Caldicot, Monmouthshire

1861 Kinfare Staffs
John Bishop 50
Sarah Bishop 45
Philip Bishop 22
James Bishop 16 Kinver
Daniel Bishop 14
George Bishop 11
Jane Bishop 8
John Bishop 6
Samuel Bishop 3

1851
John Bishop abt 1811 Kinfare, Staffordshire, England Head Kinver, Staffordshire
Sarah Bishop abt 1819 Stow, Shropshire, England Wife Kinver, Staffordshire
Philip Bishop abt 1839 Kinfare, Staffordshire, England Son Kinver, Staffordshire
Emma Bishop abt 1842 Kinfare, Staffordshire, England Daughter Kinver, Staffordshire
James Bishop abt 1845 Kinfare, Staffordshire, England Son Kinver, Staffordshire
Daniel Bishop abt 1848 Kinfare, Staffordshire, England Son Kinver, Staffordshire
George Bishop abt 1850 Kinfare, Staffordshire, England Son Kinver, Staffordshire

1841 Hyde
John Bishop abt 1811 Staffordshire, England Kinver, Staffordshire Ag Lab
Sarah Bishop abt 1821 Staffordshire, England Kinver, Staffordshire
Ann Bishop abt 1816 Staffordshire, England Kinver, Staffordshire
Eliza Bishop abt 1826 Staffordshire, England Kinver, Staffordshire
Philip Bishop abt 1839 Staffordshire, England Kinver, Staffordshire

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According to 1881 Census Margaret was aged 28 and with James, she has children until 1888 (baptised at Cinderford St Stephen), but is not on 1891 Census with James and rest of family.

?

From this site's PRs

Record_ID: 56145
Entry_Number: 1507
Year: 1890
Month: Feb
Day: 25
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: Margaret
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 37 y[ea]rs
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 189
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

NB: I think there maybe a couple of old gravestones just in front of St Stephens, but only a very few, hence ? she's buried at St Johns which has a burial ground.

From this site's Old Photo section see:
St Johns
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/churches/pages/page_12.html
St Stephens
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/churches/pages/page_14.html
(Note the area next to the Church is the Vicarage Lawn, not a burial ground).
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/cinderford/pages/page_26.html

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Ref earlier GlosBMD Birth registration for Emma Jane Bishop b1883, sadly

Record_ID: 55803
Entry_Number: 1167
Year: 1885
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: Emma Jane
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 1 y[ea]r & 9m[o
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 146
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

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Altho not! proven without further research, browsing this site's Cinderford PRs for Bishops gives the following possible family members:

James & Margaret had a son John born Lydney abt 1881 according to the Census.
From this site:

Record_ID: 41339
Entry_Number: 171
Year: 1882
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: BISHOP
Child_Forenames: John William
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Primrose Hill
Occupation: Puddler
Officiating_Minister: R. Stevens Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: B210

He is with the household in 1891 but not in 1901 Census. He's old enough to have moved out, but could this be him ?:

Record_ID: 6105
Entry_Number: 693
Year: 1900
Month: Apr
Day: 5
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: John William
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 18 years
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 88
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

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Their elder son George Henry born abt 1878 married Kate Rosalind Murrell born abt 1885 in 1907, (see earlier).

These premature deaths match ?

Casualty of War, or ?

Record_ID: 7317
Entry_Number: 285
Year: 1917
Month: Dec
Day: 14
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: George Henry
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 39
Officiating_Minister: F W Baldwin Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 36
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

Record_ID: 8333
Entry_Number: 1301
Year: 1932
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: Kate
Residence: Victoria St[reet] E[ast] D[ean]
Age_at_death: 47
Officiating_Minister: J W Yeandle Hignell
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 163
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

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On a happier note, I think this may be their children, born just after the 1907 Marriage:

Record_ID: 1014563
Entry_Number:
Year: 1934
Month: Oct
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: BISHOP
Grooms_Forenames: Henry George
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: pumpsman
Grooms_Residence: Victoria St
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: BISHOP
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [decd]
Brides_Surname: BEDDIS
Brides_Forenames: Hilda Mary
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation: domestic
Brides_Residence: Victoria St.
Brides_Fathers_Surname: BEDDIS
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph Edward
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [decd]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Helen Capener
Witness_2: John Bishop
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: C Paul Glidden
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex_Groom: B210
Soundex_Bride: B320

Record_ID: 1014624
Entry_Number:
Year: 1938
Month: Apr
Day: 16
Grooms_Surname: WALL
Grooms_Forenames: Ernest Edward
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: fitter
Grooms_Residence: Gloucester
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: WALL
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: labourer
Brides_Surname: BISHOP
Brides_Forenames: Florence May
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Victoria St.
Brides_Fathers_Surname: BISHOP
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George Henry
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: H G Bishop
Witness_2: G Stamps
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tom T Haines vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 95
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex_Groom: W400
Soundex_Bride: B210

Note the witnesses are brothers.

Ref earlier posted Marriage of George Henry Bishop & Kate Rosalind Murrell in 1907; I suspect this may be their son ? If so he was born abt 1915, perhaps named in memory of George's close brother John William who had died abt 1900.

Record_ID: 78770
Entry_Number: 196
Year: 1940
Month: Sep
Day: 10
Grooms_Surname: BISHOP
Grooms_Forenames: John William
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Aircraft Fitter
Grooms_Residence: 28 Victoria Street
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Bishop
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Henry George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: JENKINS
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth May
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Domestic Servant
Brides_Residence: 127 Victoria Street
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jenkins
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Dorathy F Jenkins
Witness_2: Arthur Cornwall
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: F W Potts Hicks Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Record copy very faint
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 98
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex_Groom: B210
Soundex_Bride: J525

The following marriage MAY possibly be their son, altho further proof needed of course.

From GlosBMD:

Marriage Details

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BISHOP John William POTTER Kathleen May Forest of Dean Mitcheldean St Michael and All Angels 1960 5 46

???

I had wondered if the "next-generation" groom's name indicated whether his POSSIBLE father John WIlliam Bishop, "Aircraft fitter", had died during WW2, but I cannot find him in the CWGC site, altho thats not conclusive of course (the fact there are some John William Bishops' war graves listed, a few are RAF men, show this is NOT a rare name !).
He could equally have been a civilian working at a munitions factory (GAC Brockworth etc).
All supposition of course...

James Bishop and Margaret Emma Cole - James' parents were John Bishop and Sarah (formerly Bradley).

On 23 Feb 1841 John, son of James Bishop, m. Sarah, daughter of William Bradley at Grendon Bishop, Herefordshire.

On 29 Jan 1810 James Bishop m. Elizabeth Boaz at Kinver. The 1861 census shows Eliazabeth, aged 73, as living with her daughter and her birthplace as Shrewley, Worcs.

On 28 Mar 1788 Elizabeth d/o Samuel and Elizabeth Bows was christened at Shrawley, Worcs. The family were living at Kinver by 1793.

Margaret parents, William Cole and Elizabeth Harry were m. on 10 Jul 1853 at Llangwm.
William's parents, Philip Cole (also a carpenter, born in Bristol) and Elizabeth Edwards m. on 09 Aug 1813 at Wolves Newton.

About 1826 Elizabeth's Parents, Joseph Harry and Margaret Sadler were m. Elizabeth was chr, at Llangwm on 02 Mar 1830.

On 07 May 1777 Wm s/o William and Elizabeth Huntly Harry was chr. at Llangwm.

On 27 May 1776 William Harry m. Elizabeth Huntley at Llangwm.

Many thanks for taking the time to send this information. It will be a great help

Correction - Elizabeth d/o Joseph & Margaret Harry was chr on 02 Mar 1829 at Llangwm.

Also Joseph was chr at Llangwrm on 22 Jul 1804 and was the s/o William and Susanna Davis Harry. William Harry m Susanna Davis on 28 Dec 1803 at Llangwm.
Susanna d/o Thomas & Elizabeth Davis was chr at Llangwm on 01 Jan 1783.