James BISHOP born "abt 1845 Keever, Staffs", and family (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Sunday, February 10, 2013, 20:53 (4299 days ago) @ m p griffiths

From the free Latterday Saints site:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aj...

Possible wrt the 1881 Census above

name: James Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Oct 1844
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39078-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040764
reference number:

DITTO

name: James Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Oct 1844
baptism/christening place: KINVER,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04869-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 435782, 435783
reference number:

NOTE! I can't find a place called "Keever" anywhere, transcription error ?

--- CENSUS's

name: James Bishop
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 16
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Wolverhampton
sub-district: 2 Kinfare
ecclesiastical parish: Kinver
civil parish: Kinver
county: Staffordshire


name: James Bishop
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 28
relationship to head of household: Lodger
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Chepstow
sub-district: Shirenewton
event parish: Caldicot Village End
county: Monmouthshire


name: James Bishop
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 56
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Kinver, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Westbury On Severn
sub-district: East Dean
ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
civil parish: East Dean
county: Gloucestershire

(Think this is my home church St Stephen = Cinderford/Woodside; photos are on this site.)

From this FoD site's PRs:
Could these be the same family, still in Cinderford ?

Record_ID: 87978
Entry_Number: 369
Year: 1888
Month: Feb
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BISHOP
Child_Forenames: Sarah Jane
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodside
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: C. W. Houlston
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Jul 11 1886
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2IN 1/1
Page_Number: 47
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex: B210

Record_ID: 87979
Entry_Number: 370
Year: 1888
Month: Feb
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BISHOP
Child_Forenames: Emma Frances
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodside
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: C. W. Houlston
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Oct 20 1887
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2IN 1/1
Page_Number: 47
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex: B210


(Cannot find any subsequent records re Sarah or Emma in FoD PRs)


Record_ID: 25169
Entry_Number: 231
Year: 1907
Month: Aug
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: BISHOP
Grooms_Forenames: George Henry
Grooms_Age: 29
Groom_Condition: B[achelor]
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Woodside
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Bishop
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: MURRELL
Brides_Forenames: Kate Rosalind
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: S[pinster]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Woodside
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Murrell
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: E. M. Leadbeater
Witness_2: F. Leadbeater
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W. H. M. Hancock
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 1N 1/6
Page_Number: 116
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex_Groom: B210
Soundex_Bride: M640

Or from GlosBMD:

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BISHOP George Henry MURRELL Kate Rosalind Forest of Dean Cinderford Woodside St Stephen 1907 1 231

So this George Bishop was 29yrs in 1907, so born abt 1878, father James.
George's age fits earlier 1881 Census record perfectly.
Cannot find any subsequent Baptisms re George & Kate in FoD PRs.

Re-searching LDS for George:

name: George Harry Bishop
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Oct 1878
baptism/christening place: Kinfare, Stafford, England
birth date: 04 May 1878
birthplace: Kinver, Stafford, England
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Bishop
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Margaret
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04869-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1471067
reference number: item 12 p 17

And GlosBMD:

Following Births Registered:

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BISHOP Emma Jane BISHOP BISHOP COLE 1883 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 51 234

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BISHOP Sarah Jane BISHOP BISHOP COLES 1886 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 55 69

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BISHOP Frances Emma BISHOP BISHOP COLE 1887 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 56 488


Marriage Details

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
THOMAS James BISHOP Emma Frances Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office 1908 14 90
(So just aged 21, but Registry Office = ?).


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