Macklin ; Mansel Lacy HER (General)
hello - I live in a farmhouse which was once known as Macklins Farm in Herefordshire. My understanding is that it was called Macklins Farm because the macklin family lived here. It is now called The Macklin. Does this help? Can you help me - I am researching the history of the house.
Carol
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
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Herefordshire, Yazor & Mansell Lacy - District 09 - No. 11 on the Schedule
1. Oak Farm
2. School House
Schools
3. Rose Cottage
4. Rose Cottage
5. Mansel Village
6. Ditto
7. Ditto
8. Ditto
9. Ditto
10. Ditto
11. MACKLINS
12. Mansell Village
13. The Shop.
14 to 20 Mansell Village
21. Court Farm
Church
22. Mansel House, Col. BURN
Reading Room
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1911 Census
Macklins
Mansel Lacey
Hereford
EVANS
living in 5 rooms
EVANS
William - 43 Shepherd on farm
Mary Ann - 53, married 23 years - 6 children born alive, 6 living
Francis - 12
Alice - 17 - Domestic Servant
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1901 Census, Herefordshire Mansell Lacy - District 9 (in between Police Station/Rose Cottage)
MACKLINS
LLOYD
Thomas - 47 -Shepherd on farm
Mary J - 49
Sarah J - 12
Beatrice - 10 - born Herefordshire, Mansel Lacy
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Thomas LLOYD age 38 is there at MACKLINS on the 1891 Census, Shepherd Ag. Lab.
Emily - 26
Sarah - 2
Beatrice M - 5 months
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On the 1881 census for Mansell Lacy
Most cottages aren't named - (no-one named MACKLIN)
There is a William TRIGG age 39 who is the Post Constable with his family, born Glos. Drybrook - so the cottages after this should be 'MACKLINs'
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1871 Census ( 1871 Ancestry: MANSELL LUCY) - mostly listed Mansell Lacy - no MACKLIN name)
1861 - ditto -
1851 - ditto -
1841 - ditto -
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
thank you! I have some of this information but not all. Trying to trace the history of a house is not easy when properties are not named on certain documents i.e. census. It leaves one with the question - are all not named
or was the house in question not named!
I seek a connection between this 16th C farmhouse called Macklins Farm and a Macklin family member. All help gratefully received!
Carol Allen
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
The house ins't named before the 1891 census - neither are there any MACKLIN families listed in the census returns.
Herefordshire Records office may hold documents. There website has a guide on House History Research.
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
I was in Hereford Records office 2 days ago looking at documents relating to my search. I found a reference in Littleburys Gazetter of Herefordshire 1867 to Thomas Williams of Macklins and in Cassey Directory 1858 Lloyd Williams of Maclands. This farmer was mentioned in Lascelles 1851 directory but house was not named.
I have not finished my search in the records office but at this moment can get no further back than this.
Carol Allen
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
Hi Carol,
Perhaps these general Herefordshire FH sites may be of some help in your search (apologies if you already have tried them).
The Herefordshire Surnames site does have contact details for a Macklin searcher, it may be outofdate but well worth a try ?. (I stumbled across this site a few years back and it has helped me a lot).
http://www.herefordsurnames.homecall.co.uk/m.htm
The Herefordshire FHS site may be worth an email altho no obvious Mackin researcher listed.
http://www.herefordshirefhs.org.uk/surnames?cat_id=17&field=+
I'm beginning to find the old newspapers site more & more usefull & informative when tracing family names, have you tried it ?. See this thread for info & advice.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=34864
Re House names in general in past Census' etc, I don't think it at all unusual that houses did not have names or numbers particularly in the less-heavily populated rural areas & villages, everyone knew each other by name including the postman of course, and a house would often stay in the same family for generations. I suppose those who were "in business" including Farms would be more likely to have names as the C19th progressed but not necessarily smaller houses.
Good luck !
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
Re: WILLIAMS, Mansell Lacey
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Thomas WILLIAMS - listed in 1867
and on General Post Office Directory 1863
Lloyd WILLIAMS - listed 1858
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1861 Census, Herefordshire, Dewsall
Dewsall Court
Edwin PRITCHARD - Married - 32 - Farm Baliff, Managing a Farmer of 530? acres - born Herefordshire
Mary Ann PRITCHARD - 42 - born Herefordshire, Mansell Lacy
next door
William MACKLIN - Head - 54 , born Hereford, Dewsall
Hannah MACKLIN - mar - 34, School Mistress, born Hereford
(is this just a coincidence? or naming the farm after this couple)
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1861 Census, Mansell Lacy
Westmoor Mansel
Mary WILLIAMS - 70 Farmer of 8 acres, born Mansel Lacy
Kate PRITCHARD - 6 - Granddaughter - born Mansel Lacy
+ a couple of Servant
1881 Census (not far from Mansel House)
Westmore
Edwin PRITCHARD - 52, Farmer of 30 acres
Mary Ann PRITCHARD - 62
Kate PRITCHARD - 25
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Ancestry : Probate
Mary WILLIAMS - Effects under £100
28 November 1871
The Will of Mary WILLIAMS late of Mansel Lacy in the County of Hereford, Widow, who died 9 September 1871 at Mansel Lacy was proved at Hereford by James WILLIAMS of Ivington in the said County, Carpenter, the son and Edwin PRITCHARD of Mansel Lacy, Farmer, the Executors.
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
hello Jefff - thank you for all your suggestions - I will set to and have a go! I am back in the records office in Herefordshire on Thursday.
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
thank you for this. All help very welcome! Carol
Macklin; Mansel Lacy HER
hello - I have been researching and have discovered our house was named Macklins Farm in 1710 when a weaver John Macklin and his wife Anne moved to Mansel Lacy from Bishopstone. He was the son of John Macklin (s) yeoman farmer of Knap Farm, Bridge Sollars. The last Macklin to live in the house was Ester Edith Macklin who left in 1820 possibly to enter a workhouse.
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