de la Beche (General)
Just a ramble from me.....While looking for origins of my BEACH surname there were several suggestions and Beauchamp was one, de la Beche the other and both are have connections to the Norman conquest. I found a mention years ago of a Gwillium? de la Beche being a Marcher Lord in the area, the family had been awarded land in Berkshire following the conquest so would also probably have acquired land here also.(all guess work) Joan Beche of Newent died 1545? I assume the "de la" was dropped, this is possibly the oldest mention of the name locally, and within the next 150 years the name around Newent became Beache and then Beach. So I was interested to read among these posts that the true way to pronounce Beauchamp is Beecham, I wonder how long that family owned land in the area. The Beech tree may be the reason my surname exists, but taking the e and a out of the name Beauch...as English evolved seems to be more likely to me. One thing I am sure about is that it has nothing to do with the seaside. There is a point isn't there, as we inch our way back decades at a time that it becomes a nonsense as the roots entwine with every other tree.
Ramble on Fred :-) ....
I think that the literal translation of the French la bêche would be spade
http://www.berkshirehistory.com/bios/ndelabeche.html
Beauchamp, is more French Beau (Bow) being anglicised to Bee and Champ (Shomp) being anglicised as Champ(ion) then Cham with a silent "p"... ending as Bee-cham....
ps happy St Georges day
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Complete thread:
- Beauchamp Arms Inn, Dymock -
Jefff,
2013-03-03, 14:58
- Beauchamp Arms inn (reply) -
paulp,
2013-03-03, 20:38
- Beauchamp Arms inn (reply) -
jhopkins,
2013-03-03, 21:01
- PYNDAR of Kempley -> LYGON -> BEAUCHAMP -
slowhands,
2013-03-04, 00:09
- PYNDAR of Kempley -> LYGON -> BEAUCHAMP - Roger Griffiths, 2013-03-04, 11:36
- PYNDAR of Kempley -> LYGON -> BEAUCHAMP -
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2013-03-05, 03:21
- Arthur BEAUCHAMP 1827 Holborn London - slowhands, 2013-03-05, 07:16
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slowhands,
2013-03-11, 00:05
- Daffs & the Daffodil Line - Jefff, 2013-03-12, 03:58
- PYNDAR of Kempley -> LYGON -> BEAUCHAMP -
slowhands,
2013-03-04, 00:09
- Beauchamp Arms inn (reply) -
jhopkins,
2013-03-03, 21:01
- Beauchamp Arms Inn, Dymock -
fredb,
2013-04-23, 08:49
- de la Beche -
slowhands,
2013-04-23, 09:10
- de la Beche, and "Hurrah! for Saint George " -
Jefff,
2013-04-23, 16:20
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2013-04-24, 07:56
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2013-04-24, 09:46
- Patron Saint - "Saint Briavel" -
Roughyedbach,
2013-04-24, 12:30
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2013-04-24, 13:17
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2013-04-24, 16:19
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2013-04-24, 16:36
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2013-04-24, 18:57
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2013-04-24, 18:57
- Patron Saint - "Saint Briavel" -
slowhands,
2013-04-24, 16:36
- Patron Saint - "Saint Briavel" -
peteressex,
2013-04-24, 16:19
- Patron Saint - "Saint Briavel" -
slowhands,
2013-04-24, 13:17
- Patron Saint - "Saint Briavel" -
Roughyedbach,
2013-04-24, 12:30
- Patron Saint - "Saint Briavel" -
slowhands,
2013-04-24, 09:46
- Patron Saint - "Saint Briavel" -
peteressex,
2013-04-24, 07:56
- de la Beche, and "Hurrah! for Saint George " -
Jefff,
2013-04-23, 16:20
- de la Beche -
slowhands,
2013-04-23, 09:10
- Beauchamp Arms inn (reply) -
paulp,
2013-03-03, 20:38