WILLIAMS family Penalt

I am looking into information or any connections on my Williams family of Penalt who moved to Clements End, Newland.
Susanna Williams (England) and Thomas Williams moved with family and had Hagar Williams born 20/11/1867.
I know Thomas Williams was a farm Labour in Newland.
(interested to know any more information on the place)
By 1871 the family are now living in Clements Green, Sling, Newland
Thomas Williams
Susanna Williams
Uriah Williams
John Williams
Hannah Williams
Thomas Williams
Hagar Williams

Does anyone know of the above places..is Clements green a house?

I have so far managed to trace child Thomas and Hagar. Not sure where Thomas and Susanna ended up as yet

Thanks

Rachel

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I have posted the whole of the 1871 so that we have some ages to work with!

Address Clements Green
Parish Newland
District Monmouth, Coleford
Administrative County Monmouthshire
Householder 1
Name Thomas Williams
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Monmouthshire
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 2
Name Susanna Williams
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Monmouthshire
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 3
Name Uirah Williams
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Monmouthshire
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 4
Name Hannah Williams
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Monmouthshire
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 5
Name Thomas Williams
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Monmouthshire
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 6
Name John Williams
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1866
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Monmouthshire
Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 7
Name Hager Williams
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Monmouthshire
Birth County Monmouthshire
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Hi Rachel and welcome to this great website and forum.

Clements End Green is a place, not a house. In the Forest a "Green" is a flattish grassy area or clearing, not wooded, probably called a Common elsewhere. Clements End is one of several very small hamlets just south of Coleford and west of Parkend which was an industrial hotbed of mines & metalworking in Victorian times. I suspect it was named after one of the first families to have built a cottage and settled there. From the definitive History of the area;

"North-west of Bream a few, mainly industrial, buildings were put up from the 1840s in the Oakwood valley near an ancient corn mill in a detached part of Newland parish. Further west at Clements End, near the south-western boundary of the Forest, there were several groups of scattered cottages by 1787. One group, in the areas known in the 1820s as Clements Tump and Cleverend Green, comprised six cottages in 1834 and was represented by the 16 houses recorded at 'Elwall in 1851. It included a nonconformist chapel from 1869. To the north-west there were ten cottages on Clements End green in 1834 and among later buildings there one, in 1878 a beerhouse, was the Montague inn in 1992. By 1787 there were also a few dwellings north-east of Clements End at Little Drybrook, in a secluded valley below an old farmhouse (later Ellwood Lodge) in an adjoining detached part of Newland. The hamlet comprised six cottages in 1834, among them a two-storeyed dwelling dated 1805 with the initials of William Taylor, a quarry owner, and his wife Hannah. Building had also begun in the Marsh Lane area, to the north-west, by 1787. There 11 cottages were scattered along the lane, which ran northwards to Ellwood, in 1834 and a few more were erected later in the century."

From: 'Forest of Dean: Settlement', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 300-325.

ps please check your email inbox for a personal message re a photo that may be of interest.

URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23266&strquery=clements
Date accessed: 27 April 2013.

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1851
Susanah England abt 1828 Bristol, Somerset, England Servant Penrose, Monmouthshire

Year: 1854
Month: Dec
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: WILLIAMS
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: full
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: labourer
Grooms_Residence: Penallt
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Williams
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: labourer
Brides_Surname: ENGLAND
Brides_Forenames: Susanna
Brides_Age: full
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Penallt
Brides_Fathers_Surname: England
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: labourer
Licence_or_Banns: banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of James Bevan
Witness_2: Hannah Richards
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Penallt Monmouth

1861
Thomas Williams abt 1834 Hamlet Park {Grace Diece}, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Penallt, Monmouthshire
Susannah Williams abt 1829 Bristol Wife Penallt, Monmouthshire
Uriah James Williams abt 1856 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Penallt, Monmouthshire
Anna Williams abt 1860 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Penallt, Monmouthshire

1871 Clements Green nr Perry Grove House / Milkwall
Thomas Williams 37
Susanna Williams 42
Norah Williams 15
Hannah Williams 11
Thomas Williams 8
John Williams 5
Hager Williams 2

possible death
Name: Susannah Williams
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1871
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 11

I wonder if this is Susannah ?

Year: 1871
Month: Oct
Day: 15
Surname: WILLIAMS
Forenames: Ann
Residence: Coleford
Age_at_death: 42
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: Penallt Monmouth

1881
Hagar Williams abt 1868 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Niece Penalt, Monmouthshire

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Susannah WILLIAMS nee ENGLAND1828-1871 Bristol,Penallt,Sling