Rawlins Haddock sent to gaol in 1817 for rioting at Merthyr (General)

by JeremyWilshere , Tuesday, May 07, 2013, 18:55 (4213 days ago)

But how old is he?
Age 22 or 53 ?
ie
is he a Forest of Dean person or not ;-)

The Hereford Journal has a Rawlins Haddock in the dock in Cardiff 1817 (*).

(1)
Could this be the same Rawlins Haddock who died @Lydbrook/ English Bicknor in 1838 **?

Age @death 74 -> DoB = 1764

After all, Merthyr and the Forest of Dean are only about 40 miles apart.

(2)
If (1) matches, he would be about 53 in 1817.

53 would be very much above the average life expectancy related by the recent BBC Welsh Towns documentary about Merthyr Tydfil (17.5 in 1820/ 1830's).

In the same doc, Eddie Butler only mentions the Merthyr Rising of 1831, not the Riot of 1816.

(3)
Age of the prisoner in Cardiff?

Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru (National Library of Wales apparently) has a **Rawlings** Haddock, aged 22.

A different spelling from the Hereford Journal for what must be the same individual.

Age 22 in 1816 gives an approximate DoB = 1794. 30 years younger than the previous one...

I searched this forum for Thread "Haddock" but I quickly went cross-eyed. I apologize if identifying the prisoner has already been solved..... Though thinking out aloud in this way might hopefully save others from falling into the same trap.

On balance it looks as if there must be 2 individuals with the same unusual name.

Could they be related?
Mmmm...

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Hereford Journal - Wednesday 16 April 1817

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At Cardiff the Great Sessions terminated on Monday ?night, there were 20 prisoners for trial of whom 7 were convicted, viz

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Rawlins Haddock, for rioting at Merthyr Tydfil, to be imprisoned twelve months
Thomas Gwillaim, David Davis, and William Llewellin, for the same offence, the former six months, and the two latter three months' imprisonment;
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Retrieved from

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk

or

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/

under section headed:
British Newspapers 1710-1963

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Retrieved from
Parish Records Search

[inlinecode]Record_ID: 16018
Entry_Number: 1838
Year: 1828
Month: Jul
Day: 1
Surname: HADDOCK
Forenames: Rawlins
Residence: Lidbrook
Age_at_death: 74
Officiating_Minister: T Marwood Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: from 1813
Page_No: 40
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor
Soundex: H320
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