Hi

I'm wondering if anyone has any info about William Allen Dale - born 1878 - who married Edith May Preest in 1912. The records for their children's baptisms are on the site here and also lots of useful info about the Preest family where Edith May originated. But I have a feeling William Dale may have been married before. I'm trying to use census records to narrow down the possibilities and it's proving challenging to say the least!

Any little bit of info would be greatly appreciated

Thank you
downunder

Gloucestershirebdm

William DALE married Edith PREEST - Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office - 1912

Hi

Have you checked out this family?

1901

Household information
Address Shirlheath
Civil Parish Kingsland
Rural District Leominster
Town or Village or Hamlet Street
Ecclesiastical Parish St Michaels + All Saints Kingsland
Parliamentary Borough or Division North Herefordshire
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Herefordshire

Householder 1
Name Allan Dale
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 14
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Weobley
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name Clifford Dale
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Weobley
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name John Dale
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 18
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Groom Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Weobley
Language
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name John Dale
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 54
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Bricklayer
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Hope
Language
Infirmity

Householder 5
Name Martha Dale
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 50
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Normsley
Language
Infirmity

Householder 6
Name Minnie Dale
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Kingsland
Language
Infirmity

Householder 7
Name Thomas Dale
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 21
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Bricklayer
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Weobley
Language
Infirmity

Householder 8
Name William Dale
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 23
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Bricklayer
Employment Status
Where Born Hereford Weobley
Language
Infirmity

Hi

Yes, that's definitely them. Their children's birth certificates are in English as well as Welsh,

Cheers!

Hi!

No I haven't seen that family. I've been looking in the Congleton area mostly because the info I had is that he lived around there and was a coal hewer all his life. But I will certainly check it out.

Thank you so much.

Also, may I ask which site you're using to get such detailed census information? I've been using Genesreunited for my census info, but it's nowhere near as thorough as that, the way I'm doing it.

Cheers! (and I hope you don't mind an Aussie being so nosy)

Hi
Another Suggestion from 1911 Census

William Dale Lodger Age 32 (1879) Occupation Collier Born South Africa (British Subject by Parentage) Lodging at 32 Newerne Street Lydney.

Ancestry has William DALE transcribed as William SALE born South Apriea - on the 1911 census for Lydney, Wales, Monmouthshire, and lodging with two sisters, Harriet (age 84) and Jane (age 81) BETTINGTON - both born Newnham.

Hi

I'm wondering if anyone has any info about William Allen Dale - born 1878 - who married Edith May Preest in 1912. The records for their children's baptisms are on the site here and also lots of useful info about the Preest family where Edith May originated. But I have a feeling William Dale may have been married before. I'm trying to use census records to narrow down the possibilities and it's proving challenging to say the least!

Any little bit of info would be greatly appreciated

Thank you
downunder

1911 32 Newerne St Lydney
Harriet Bettington 84
Jane Bettington81
William Sale 32 South Apriea Collier

Name:William Dale
Birth Date:abt 1877
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1957
Age at Death:80
Registration District:Forest of Dean
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:7b
Page: 328

Year: 1957
Month: Aug
Day: 7
Surname: DALE
Forenames: William
Residence: 64 Parksend Rd Bream
Age_at_death: 80
Officiating_Minister: J.Wyn Davies
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/19
Page_No: 28
Parish_Chapel: Bream

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Thanks! Hadn't seen that one at all.

Hi!

Yes, I'm sure that's his death. He was certainly dead by 1961 when his youngest daughter remarried.

Thanks for the census info. Great help from this side of the world.

Name:Edith May Dale
Birth Date:15 Aug 1897
Date of Registration:Jul 1986
Age at Death:88
Registration District:Gloucester
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:22
Page:1685

from http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=37518

1901
Henery T Prcest abt 1845 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary A Prcest abt 1857 Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Albert Prcest abt 1883 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Georginia Prcest abt 1892 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Edith Prcest abt 1898 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

Year: 1897
Month: Dec
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: PREEST
Child_Forenames: Edith May
Fathers_Forenames: Henry Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Maryanne Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Colliers Beech
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: E F Eales
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: born Aug 15 1897
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 67
Parish_Chapel: Bream

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hi!

That's certainly her from the census. Her dad was Henry Thomas and her mum Mary Ann Elizabeth Aston. And that would be her death too. She lived to a fine old age!

Thanks!

Is this the correct marriage, Edith was born 15 Aug 1897 and in 1912 she would only have been 14/15. Would she have married so young?

Hi Nicky

Yes, that's the right marriage. He's 27 on their marriage certificate and she says she's 18, so he loses 4 years and she gains 3.

Cheers