Hi all,
please can someone help me ?.

I've been browsing the 1911 Census via the Ancestry website and have been trying to find the complete household at the Manor House, Longhope.
However it looks like Ancestry may have mislaid/misfiled a page or two of the relevant Census forms; I've found one page of their Census which includes 3 members of the staff including a Priscilla Brock, cook, born Hereford abt 1889. This form image clearly states the address is Manor House, Longhope, with 15 rooms.

I hope this link to her works, I'd be gratefull if anyone can please confirm if it does or doesn't, thanks.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911England&indiv=try&h=55981609

However the Ancestry transcript incorrectly shows these three young ladies as part of the Bessant household, which is actually at the nearby Nags Head Inn.

Re the actual image of the above Manor House staff Census form, the previous image is indeed that of the Nags Head and doesn't include Ms Brock etc.
The subsequent image page is the Coverpage for the Manor House Census. This shows the head to be Mrs Jones-Williams, who I know unveiled the village WW1 Memorial in 1928 so may well have been at the Manor House ?.

I've also visited the excellent Longhope Village website but their Census transcript only echoes the above. Does this mean that Ancestry has made an error, or is this an example of the Census form being lost for good so not on any website ?.

I'd be gratefull if a subscriber of another Census website such as FindMyPast could please try searching out the above characters, or better still find them on Ancestry. Many thanks.

For those interested, although the Manor of Hope, later Long Hope, dates from Domesday times, the current Manor House is a much later Georgian building.
http://www.forestprints.co.uk/manor_house_v01.htm
http://www.forestprints.co.uk/manor_house_v02.htm
http://www.ross-on-wye.com/index.php?page=oldph_210-The_Manor_Longhope_Chasedale

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PS. From this site's PRs I find this Burial occurred just before the 1911 Census was taken, perhaps Frederick had been the Head of the Household before his early passing ?.

Record_ID: 22442
Entry_Number: 633
Year: 1910
Month: Jan
Day: 14
Surname: WILLIAMS
Forenames: Frederick Jones
Residence: Manor House
Age_at_death: 39
Officiating_Minister: W H Elkington Vicar of Elsfield Oxon & George Barr
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/11
Page_No: 80
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex: W452

The excellent Longhope Village website shows his impressive Memorial which states

"In loving memory of Frederick Jones Williams of the Manor House Longhope.
Second son of the late Edward Jones Williams of Rochford, Tenbury.
Who passed away January 10 1910. Aged 39 years
Blessed are the pure in heart
Also of his widow Ethel Louisa who died at Bath Jan 26. 1942 aged 74 years cremated at Bristol"
http://www.longhopevillage.co.uk/familyhistory/allsaints/details.asp?id=327

Thankyou, Jeff

Hi Jeff

I am struggling to find anything on Genes Reunited.

Do you have any other names from the Manor House I can look for please?

Cheers
Chris

EDIT Have now found Priscilla (written as Brack) Rachel Brock & Flora Hailes together on one form and, as you said, from the Manor House. Will keep looking!

Hi Chris,
thanks for your quick reply, sorry I'm slow getting back. To be honest this is a cheeky request as I don't expect to find gentry in my family tree, its just out of curiosity & a very small family link to the building, but I do hate an unsolved problem !

The page/image you've found is clearly the same one I saw on Ancestry. Its beginning to sound like thats all there is for the Manor... but hope not ?

PS I'd be grateful, please, if you can comment as to whether my Ancestry link works for you or not. I dont knwo whether these things rely on tinternet fairies now implanted into my pc's memory, or whether the link will work on other people's machines too without said fairies (sorry cookies - all black magic to me). I'd love to know either way, dont want to keep posting such things if theyre no use to anyone else.

Cheers & thanks again !

PS on Ancestry I found the above page purely by entering "Manor House Longhope" into the "keyword" box. I'd previously tried this in the "Event, lived in" box but the filters just found everyone with any of these words in their Census page aka the whole village residents !
Daft really as a bit of thought would have given the Jones-Williams name.
Sorry if Genes Reunited needs people's names.

Off to try the LDS site now, didnt think to earlier !

UPDATE: Nope, no luck there, except to say they have Priscilla and Rachel as BRACK too, apologies for not studying their entries on the image before posting !

I have looked at the images on Ancestry and conclude that the only people living in the Manor House were the 3 servants. We know that Mr Jones-Williams had passed away earlier that year so we ask a simple question : where is his widow? A search tells us that she is with her parents:

Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Years Married Occupation Birth Place Address
Arthur Guy Elkington Head 1833 78 Female Married Deputy Surgeon General A M S Retd Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Appin, Farnborough Park, Farnborough, Hants
Rachel Ethel Gordon Elkington Wife 1869 42 Female Married 5 Bothwell Appin, Farnborough Park, Farnborough, Hants
Henry Percival George Elkington Son 1864 47 Male Married St Colonel R A M C St George Hanover Square, London, England Appin, Farnborough Park, Farnborough, Hants
Ethel Louisa Lilly Williams Daughter, Visitor 1868 43 Female Widowed St George Hanover Square, London, England Appin, Farnborough Park, Farnborough, Hants
Emily Violet Courant Hay Hill Daughter, Visitor 1876 35 Female Married St George Hanover Square, London, England Appin, Farnborough Park, Farnborough, Hants
Lilly Attridge Servant 1895 16 Female Single Housemaid Domestic North Camp, Aldershot Appin, Farnborough Park, Farnborough, Hants
Alice Hayes Servant 1883 28 Female Single Cook Domestic Aldershot, Hampshire, England

Best wishes
Mike

Well well, thanks so much for this Mike, you're a real star.

Apologies to all at Ancestry for thinking they'd made an error, although their mixed-up transcription didn't encourage confidence. Apologies to you kind gents for wasting your time. Once again I was looking at the forest but not seeing the trees. These last few days I've seen a few Census's for large institutions & grand homes and just assumed, foolishly, there should have been another page or two. I'll now revisit those Census returns and study them more closely wrt the small print, rest assured I'll learn from this.

I realise now the really BIG clue is that the form was signed by Priscilla, plus of course the form clearly states total number of occupants as three; thanks Mike for so kindly not mentioning this.

Also thanks for finding Ethel for me - while I've been trying in my usual perverse way to find clues by searching Frederick in earlier Census' via the LDS site; this was made harder as the Jones part of his name seems to vary between a middle name or just an initial J, whereas I was thinking it was a double-barrelled surname, as Ethel was referred to locally as Mrs Jones Williams in later years. In this respect it's interesting her brother doesn't use the Jones name on their 1911 Census form, perhaps as the form was already rather full as you've kindly shown, or maybe he just plain forgot, probably thinking about his father... Of particular interest to me are their Army backgrounds hence living in a respectable area near Sandhurst(Military Academy), Aldershot and the fledgling Flying Corps at Farnborough; all of which I know well thro my own career in that industry.

Sadly Ethel's father Arthur (born Dursley Glos) was to pass away within a few months as this Obituary from the British Medical Journal shows:

"THE death is announced of another Crimean veteran,
Deputy Surgeon-General ARTHUR Guy ELKINGTON, who
died at Farnborough Park, Hampshire, on May 31st 1911, in his
79th year. He was appointed assistant surgeon, Scots
Fusilier Guards in 1853, but in 1868 he was transferred to
the Grenadier Guards, and served with that regiment till
his retirement from the service in 1887. During the
Crimean war in 1854-5 he was present at the battles of
Inkerman (where he was wounded) and Balaclava, and at
the siege and fall of Sebastopol. He was mentioned in
dispatches, granted a medal with three clasps, the Turkish
medal; and the 5th Class of the Order of the Medjidie."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2334332/pdf/brmedj07836-0078a.pdf

Perhaps his ill-health explains Ethel's presence at home, what a sad time for her.

(Is it coincidence that my websearches also found a senior consultant Dr Elkington currently working at hospitals close to Farnboro ?).

While searching Frederick I noted he was only a short train ride from their area in 1901, perhaps also linked to the Army.

Name: Frederick J Williams
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Tenbury, Worcestershire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Andover
Sub-District: Andover
Ecclesiastical Parish: Andover St Marys
Civil Parish: Andover
District/Parish/County: Hampshire

Name: Frederick Jones Williams
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Nov 1870
Christening Place: ROCHFORD,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edward Jones Williams
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Emily Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02240-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 374935
Reference ID:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Elkington Ethel Louisa L Headington 3a 1619
Williams Frederick Jones Headington 3a 1619

THANKS again Mike & Chris.