memoranda information on burial transcripts. (General)

by euansma @, Leamington spa, Tuesday, August 06, 2013, 11:11 (4122 days ago)

This may have been covered before but I'm wondering if there are standard questions which are covered in the memoranda section of the transcript.In a particular burial transcript I have 1 Ton-y-pandy. 2 Not stated. 3 QQ15.4 Consecrated. 5 Tonypandy. I'm presuming it has to do with where she was living when she died but would be interested to know as I have other memoranda to decipher. Thanks euansma.

memoranda information on burial transcripts.

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, August 06, 2013, 13:19 (4122 days ago) @ euansma

This may have been covered before but I'm wondering if there are standard questions which are covered in the memoranda section of the transcript.In a particular burial transcript I have 1 Ton-y-pandy. 2 Not stated. 3 QQ15.4 Consecrated. 5 Tonypandy. I'm presuming it has to do with where she was living when she died but would be interested to know as I have other memoranda to decipher. Thanks euansma.

Not aware of a standard as such - memoranda are typically extra notes added to the parish register

Its not unusual to find a grave location reference or in this case the usual residence of the person, place of death,....

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memoranda information on burial transcripts.

by grahamdavison @, Tuesday, August 06, 2013, 16:06 (4122 days ago) @ euansma

If you provide the full details I will look at the original register.

memoranda information on burial transcripts.

by euansma @, Leamington spa, Saturday, August 10, 2013, 08:16 (4118 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Hi Graham,its the burial of Fanny Evans, September 8 1921. Wife of Benjamin Evans at Coleford cemetary. Entry number 2667 and Record ID 170819. Thanks euansma

memoranda information on burial transcripts.

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, August 10, 2013, 08:27 (4118 days ago) @ euansma

Hi Graham,its the burial of Fanny Evans, September 8 1921. Wife of Benjamin Evans at Coleford cemetary. Entry number 2667 and Record ID 170819. Thanks euansma

There are consecrated and non-consecrated areas in Coleford Cemetry

She died in Tonypandy and was buried in Coleford

Name:Fanny Evans
Birth Date:abt 1867
Date of Registration:Sep 1921
Age at Death:54
Registration District:Pontypridd
Inferred County:Glamorganshire
Volume:11a
Page:625

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memoranda information on burial transcripts.

by euansma @, Leamington spa, Saturday, August 10, 2013, 08:58 (4118 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks for that.It fits in with the info I have that she was living in 1911 as wife to William Mitchell in Penygraig near Tonypandy.Her son Percy Frowen born before she married Benjamin Evans died in 1918 in France a short time after he arrived at the front.Fanny Mitchell is named as his mother.Not sure if it is unusual that she should be buried back in Coleford after many years away but my grt grandfather Henry Frowen was buried back home after he died in Coventry. Thanks again euansma

memoranda information on burial transcripts.

by grahamdavison @, Monday, August 12, 2013, 09:14 (4116 days ago) @ euansma

One of our team is an expert on Coleford Cemetry so I have asked them to try and answer your query.

memoranda information on burial transcripts.

by euansma @, Leamington spa, Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 18:31 (4114 days ago) @ grahamdavison

Thanks that would be great.Euansma.

memoranda information on Coleford burial transcripts.

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, August 10, 2013, 09:29 (4118 days ago) @ euansma

Thanks for that.It fits in with the info I have that she was living in 1911 as wife to William Mitchell in Penygraig near Tonypandy.Her son Percy Frowen born before she married Benjamin Evans died in 1918 in France a short time after he arrived at the front.Fanny Mitchell is named as his mother.Not sure if it is unusual that she should be buried back in Coleford after many years away but my grt grandfather Henry Frowen was buried back home after he died in Coventry. Thanks again euansma

Not unusal but the draw to the Forest is strong !

1911 19 Library Road Penygraig Rhondda
William Mitchell 43 Hull
Fany Mitchell 43 Coleford
James Pooke 60
Percy Frowen 23 Monmouth


Year: 1887
Month: Jan
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: FROWEN
Child_Forenames: Percy
Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Newland
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Geo Giddings Master
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [born] 14 Janry; Male; 2nd Illegitimate
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Monmouth Workhouse


Year: 1866
Month: Aug
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: FROWEN
Child_Forenames: Fanny
Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Maria
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: S Lynch. Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN I/6
Page_Number: 31
Parish_Chapel: Coleford


Year 1921
Month Sep
Day 8
Surname EVANS
Forenames Fanny
Residence Wife of Benj[ami]n Evans
Age at death 56
Officiating Minister E H Brice
Event Interment
Cause of death
Memoranda (1) Ton-y-pandy (2) [not stated] (3) QQ 15 (4) Consecrated (5) Tonypandy
Notes
Register Reference DA25 / 204 / 30
Page No 33
Parish Chapel Coleford Cemetery

compare the memoranda (2) would appear to be a grave location
(1) is probably place of death
(3) is probably the grave ref
(5) is probably normal place of abode

Year 1934
Month Sep
Day 30
Surname FROWEN
Forenames Henry
Residence Retired Collier
Age at death 80
Officiating Minister Rev[erend] T A Frost
Event Interment
Cause of death
Memoranda (1) Gulson R[oa]d Municipal Hospital Coventry (2) Section B Childs Gr[ave] (3) EE 9 (4) Consecrated (5) Coventry
Notes
Register Reference DA25 / 204 / 30
Page No 66
Parish Chapel Coleford Cemetery

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memoranda information on Coleford burial transcripts.

by May @, Thursday, August 15, 2013, 02:02 (4113 days ago) @ slowhands

The Coleford Cemetery records are different to other burial records because it is a Town or Municipal burial ground or Cemetery, rather than a Churchyard burial ground, and the record books contain much more information than the Church Burial Registers.

To put all the extra information into the burials template provided for the Parish Records database we had to condense the information and so we used the memorandum column for the extras.

Typically, and there are a few exceptions among the 6,000 records of burials,

The "Tonypandy" you mention will have come from the "Place of death" or "From what Parish removed" columns which serves to tell us where the "body" was brought from (if not Coleford Town) to be buried in Coleford Town cemetery.

Letters and Figures will be a combination of the grave location number and which section of the cemetery it is in, and will also state whether it is in Consecrated or unconsecrated ground - these snippets of information were all in separate columns.

Entries could have as many as 5 different columns condensed into memorandum.

I hope this helps give a better understanding of these Cemetery records.

May

memoranda information on Coleford burial transcripts.

by euansma @, Leamington spa, Monday, August 19, 2013, 20:18 (4109 days ago) @ May

Hi and thank you for looking into it for me, will be able to look at my other burials now and confirm other info.Euansma.

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