davis glasshouse hill (General)

by davointassie @, tasmania, Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 08:59 (4114 days ago)

hi
i am after info on my grandfather x4 WILLIAM DAVIS abt 1778 to 1858 and family from glasshouse hill and his family history if pos
i would like to know about
Elizabeth 1796 wife
Daniel Thomas 1815
Charles 1826
William Davis 1829 was sent to Tasmania and is my grandfather x3 so am ok with him
and i have seen that you have already done some work on Ann Jane 1832
i would like to know where the common or green is or was where they lived on Glasshouse Hill
thank you
peter

Glasshouse hill

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 09:09 (4114 days ago) @ davointassie

hi
i am after info on my grandfather x4 WILLIAM DAVIS abt 1778 to 1858 and family from glasshouse hill and his family history if pos
i would like to know about
Elizabeth 1796 wife
Daniel Thomas 1815
Charles 1826
William Davis 1829 was sent to Tasmania and is my grandfather x3 so am ok with him
and i have seen that you have already done some work on Ann Jane 1832
i would like to know where the common or green is or was where they lived on Glasshouse Hill
thank you
peter

Lets start the day with a view from Glasshouse Hill
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1072658


and one of Glasshouse

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/549325


I'd place the Green/Common just north of the Inn in the centre of Glasshouse
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/60350

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Daniel Thomas DAVIS 1821

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 09:10 (4114 days ago) @ davointassie

hi
i am after info on my grandfather x4 WILLIAM DAVIS abt 1778 to 1858 and family from glasshouse hill and his family history if pos
i would like to know about
Elizabeth 1796 wife
Daniel Thomas 1815
Charles 1826
William Davis 1829 was sent to Tasmania and is my grandfather x3 so am ok with him
and i have seen that you have already done some work on Ann Jane 1832
i would like to know where the common or green is or was where they lived on Glasshouse Hill
thank you
peter

Year: 1821
Month: Feb
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: DAVIS
Child_Forenames: Daniel Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tainton
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Bushell
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P326 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Taynton

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Daniel Thomas DAVIS 1821

by davointassie @, tasmania, Tuesday, July 08, 2014, 07:08 (3786 days ago) @ slowhands

hi am looking for more info on Daniel Davis i believe he married elizabeth barnard nee apley and they had a child wiliam charles davis 1858 having a bit of trouble finding them what i have found seems not quite right in the 1861 census can you please check this out for me
thank you peter

DAVIS/BARNETT/BARNARD/SLADE

by MPGriffiths @, Tuesday, July 08, 2014, 08:04 (3786 days ago) @ davointassie

Fod Records - Baptism at Newnham - 22 May 1814

Elizabeth APLEY - parents John (labourer) & Sarah


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Burial at Newnham: 1 June 1834

John APPERLEY - residence Newnham age 70

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Assume this is the 1861 census you are mentioning…


1861 Census, Flaxby, Littledean,


Daniel T DAVIES - 40 - born Laynton
Elizabeth DAVIES - 42 (looks like she's 48) born Newnham
Thomas BARNETT - Son - 16 - born Longhope
Anne BARNETT - 8 - born Taynton
William Chas DAVIS - 5 - born Taynton


and 1851 Census Taynton

Elizabeth BARNETT - age 40 - Widow (Pauper, born Longhope)
Thos - 8
William -5 (Glosbmd - BARNARD, 1846, mother's maiden name APPERLEY)

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Fod Records Burial at Longhope - 3 Feb 1850

Thomas BARNETT, age 47 - residence, Westbury upon Severn

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Fod Record

Baptism at Longhope 4 June 1843

Thomas BARNETT - parents Thomas & Elizabeth

Baptism at Mitcheldean - 7 July 1843

Thomas BARNARD - father's forenames (not stated?) Richard
mother's Forename: Elizabeth, residence, Mitchel Dean (Spinster)

Memoranda: The deleted Richard not necessarily indicative of father's Christian name

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However, looking at Gloucestershirebdm - the surname for both is BARNARD

Thomas BARNARD, no father's surname given, mother's surname: BARNARD, 1843, FoD, Wesbury on Severn
Thomas BARNARD, father's surname, BARNARD, mother's surname : BARNARD, mother's maiden name APPERLEY, 1843, Gloucester Huntley.


and William age 5 on the 1851 census

Glosbdm : BARNARD William, mother's maiden name APPERLEY - Gloucester, Huntley

Fod records

Baptism at Longhope - 15 Mar 1846

William BARNETT, father: Thomas, mother Elizabeth

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GlousBDM

Thomas BARNETT, married Elizabeth APPERLEY, Forest of Dean, Longhope, all Saints, 1839

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Fod Records. Marriage at Longhope 15 Dec 1839

Thomas BARNETT, age 36 Batchelor, Longhope
father: Thomas BARNETT - labourer

married

Elizabeth SLADE - Widow, age 30
father: John APPLERLEY, labourer

mark of Mathew WOLLEY and Maria SCISSON

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Glos bdm

birth registered - Glos. Huntley 1838

Lucy SLADE, (mother Elizabeth) mother's maiden name APPERLEY -

Fod records: Birth at Longhope 5 August 1838, Lucy Slade (base born) + her burial

and

Henry SLADE - baptised at Longhope 15 September 1839, parents Thomas & Elizabeth (also died)

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Gloucestershirebdm

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Groom Surname: Daniel Thomas

Bride Surname: APLEY also listed below BARNARD

Bride Forename: Elizabeth

District: Gloucester

Parish: Taynton

Buidling: St Lawrence

Year: 1855

Register 67 No 1

Entry: 47

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On Fod records at Taynton - 27 May 1855

Daniel Thomas age 34 - and Elizabeth BARNARD age 44 Widow etc

and Son William Charles DAVIS, christened at Taynton 24 Jan 1858


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Fod Records

Marriage at Longhope - 24 December 1833

Thomas SLADE, residence: Langaran

married

Elizabeth APPERLEY

residence: Longhope

mark of John SLADE and Maria MALLETT

DAVIS/BARNETT/BARNARD/SLADE

by davointassie @, tasmania, Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 07:06 (3785 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

hi thank you for your reply
do we think then that barnett and barnard and apley apperly and davis and davies are the correct people from the 1861 cencus for my family line
i am trying to connect daniel t davis to william c davies 1911 cenus from west ham
thank you again
peter

DAVIS/BARNETT/BARNARD/SLADE

by MPGriffiths @, Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 07:21 (3785 days ago) @ davointassie

to re-cap Daniel T DAVIS marriage from Fod Records

27 May 1855

Daniel T THOMAS (age 34) labourer, residence: Glass House Green

father: William DAVIS - labourer

married

Elizabeth BARNARD - age 44 (Widow), residence: Glass House Green

father: John APLEY, labourer

mark of Reuben HEALE and Mary Ann BODENHAM


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1851 Census, Taynton

DAVIS

William - 73 - labourer, born Newent
Elizabeth (age crossed through) - born Taynton
Daniel Thos. DAVIS - 30
Anne Jane DAVIS - 10
Susannah JONES - Servant - 7 - born Taynton


1841 Census, Taynton, Glafshouse Hill

DAVIS

William - 60
Elizabeth - 45
Charles - 15
William - 11
Ann - 8

(Daniel not at home)

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? 1841 Census, Huntley, Gloucestershire

There is a Daniel DAVIS age 20 - born in County, Male Servant, working for Cartwright Elliott (Farmer) and his family

Ann Jane DAVIS 1832 - prior thread

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 09:19 (4114 days ago) @ davointassie

hi
i am after info on my grandfather x4 WILLIAM DAVIS abt 1778 to 1858 and family from glasshouse hill and his family history if pos
i would like to know about
Elizabeth 1796 wife
Daniel Thomas 1815
Charles 1826
William Davis 1829 was sent to Tasmania and is my grandfather x3 so am ok with him
and i have seen that you have already done some work on Ann Jane 1832
i would like to know where the common or green is or was where they lived on Glasshouse Hill
thank you
peter

http://www.forest-of-dean.org.net/fodmembers/index.php?id=32371


Year: 1832
Month: Nov
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: DAVIS
Child_Forenames: Anne Jane
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Taynton
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Chas Holder Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P326 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 39
Parish_Chapel: Taynton

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

William DAVIS 1778 - 1858

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 14:11 (4114 days ago) @ davointassie

hi
i am after info on my grandfather x4 WILLIAM DAVIS abt 1778 to 1858 and family from glasshouse hill and his family history if pos
i would like to know about
Elizabeth 1796 wife
Daniel Thomas 1815
Charles 1826
William Davis 1829 was sent to Tasmania and is my grandfather x3 so am ok with him
and i have seen that you have already done some work on Ann Jane 1832
i would like to know where the common or green is or was where they lived on Glasshouse Hill
thank you
peter

a candidate


Year: 1858
Month: Feb
Day: 18
Surname: DAVIS
Forenames: William
Residence: Glasshouse Green
Age_at_death: 80
Officiating_Minister: William Hughes Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P326 IN 1/9
Page_No: 58
Parish_Chapel: Taynton


Year: 1778
Month: Feb
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: DAVIS
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Tho Parker Rector A.M.
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P326 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Taynton

Year: 1768
Month: Apr
Day: 18
Grooms_Surname: DAVIES
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Tainton
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: BILLINGHAM
Brides_Forenames: Jane
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Tainton
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: Apr 3 10 17
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of John Billingham
Witness_2: Mark of Anne Davies
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H Priez Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Banns by Wm James Curage of Norton
Register_Reference: P326 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Taynton

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

William DAVIS 1778 - 1858

by davointassie @, tasmania, Monday, March 03, 2014, 03:45 (3913 days ago) @ slowhands

hi thank you for your info still a bit lost with williams wife elizabeth birth abt 1796 from newent any clues on her

William DAVIS 1778 - 1858

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Monday, March 03, 2014, 14:24 (3913 days ago) @ davointassie

Hi Dave,
purely on the info in this thread (I don't have full census acess etc) I presume William & Elizabeth married sometime between 1810 (earliest based on Eliza's birthdate) and 1822(birth of first child), and in the Newent area if this is Elizabeth's home. I think our William was in Taynton parish (includes Glasshouse) in 1841 Census but am NOT certain, I don't have full census access and it's a common name. Am I correct, please ?.

Anyhow, using the excellent "advanced search" to search this site's Marriage Records more specifically gives this Marriage which seems the best fit by far to me;

Record_ID 32438
Entry_Number 20
Year 1818
Month Oct
Day 1
Grooms_Surname DAVIS
Grooms_Forenames William
Grooms_Age [not stated]
Groom_Condition [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation [not stated]
Grooms_Residence this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation [not stated]
Brides_Surname FROWEN
Brides_Forenames Elizabeth
Brides_Age [not stated]
Brides_Condition [not stated]
Brides_Occupation [not stated]
Brides_Residence this Parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns Banns
Date_of_Banns
Signature_or_Mark Both mark
Witness_1 Mark of John Watkins
Witness_2 Mark of Lettice Hill
Other_Witnesses
Officiating_Minister G H S Gretton
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register_Reference AR91/7
Page_Number 7
Parish_Chapel Linton
Soundex_Groom D120
Soundex_Bride F650

Further evidence to back this up (or not!) might be obtained if the witnesses can be researched and perhaps placed in William & Elizabeth's lives.

Linton is less than 5 miles from Newent and just nearer to Glasshouse Hill;
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/nearby?CCC=HEF,GRIDREF=SO660250,DISTANCE=5,PN=Linton
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Linton/Gaz1868.html

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/forest-of-dean-parish-map

Given the lack of family witnesses, plus marrying at a chapel just across the county border, does this suggest they were marrying in secret ??.

Then again, I see this Baptism which fits Elizabeth nicely, thankfully Frowen is a far less common name:

Record_ID: 237369
Entry_Number:
Year: 1797
Month: Aug
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: FROWEN
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AR91/3
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Linton
Soundex: F650

So it seems her home parish was Linton rather than Newent. Would I be correct in thinking you thought Newent as this was given by the later Census' ?. This makes sense, as Newent is the main Glostershire town in the area so appropriate for Census purposes.


How does this seem to you ?.

William DAVIS 1778 - 1858

by davointassie @, tasmania, Thursday, March 13, 2014, 06:11 (3903 days ago) @ Jefff

hi thank you for help and replying
i do not know if that is the same eliz but i also found her some time ago maybe i will recheck it again as i don't think there is much chance of finding any other.
william ans eliz lived on the on the common or green at glas house hill have you any idea where the common was. i guess they worked close by but not sure where
thank you davo

William DAVIS 1778 - 1858, GLASSHOUSE Hill, Common

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, March 13, 2014, 15:02 (3902 days ago) @ davointassie

Hi Davo,
searching tinternet gave this site which may help you, I think your "Common" refers to the "Green" mentioned in the site ?.
http://common-land.com/lands/show/newent%20and%20taynton

Clicking the "Green" heading gives precise location and a modern map. If you zoom into the map it labels Glasshouse Hill slightly to the west, between Bearfoot Wood and Castle Hill Wood. I suggest you compare this map to the period Ordnance Survey maps www.old-maps.co.uk, search using postcode GL17 ONN as there are other similar names around the UK.

Sadly this area isn't yet covered online by the British History series of books, and my copy of the first book is currently 120 miles away, sorry.
This site has a few photos of the general area which may be of interest.
http://www.gandljdean.co.uk/rambling/mayhill.html

UPDATE: Ooops, knew I should have searched the forum first, or better still read this whole thread, must be all this sunshine !. I see Slowhands has already discussed the area in his earlier post last year.

William DAVIS 1778 - 1858, GLASSHOUSE Hill, Common

by davointassie @, tasmania, Monday, March 24, 2014, 22:07 (3891 days ago) @ Jefff

thank you for reply sorry i did miss post by slowhands so will look at all info

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