KEAR george and maria (General)

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, August 20, 2013, 18:54 (4107 days ago)

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=42103

If I may be bold please can someone help to find a baptism for a child of
George Kear and Maria Darby, I've found three for Hannah 1838, Mary Ann 1841
and Charlotte in 1844, I believe that they had another child possibly a daughter
1848/50. Thank you for all your help.

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

George 1812 and Maria KEAR 1815 Brockweir -> Maryland

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, August 20, 2013, 18:52 (4107 days ago) @ slowhands

Year: 1812
Month: Jun
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: KEAR
Child_Forenames: George
Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: George Ridout
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 189
Parish_Chapel: Bream


Year: 1816
Month: Jan
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: DARBY
Child_Forenames: Maria
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Harthill
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Tho[mas] Thomas
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P175 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Hewelsfield


Year: 1837
Month: Dec
Day: 30
Grooms_Surname: KEAR
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Coleford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Kear
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: DARBY
Brides_Forenames: Maria
Brides_Age: of full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: none stated
Brides_Residence: Coleford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Darby
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of William Jenkins
Witness_2: Elizabeth Hewlet
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George Ridout Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 16
Parish_Chapel: Newland

KEAR Mary Ann
KEAR DARBY
1841 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 2 90

1841 Brockweir
George Kear 25
Maria Kear 25
Anne Kear 2
Mary Anne Kear 1


KEAR Charlotte
KEAR DARBY
1843 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 3 132

emigration ?


1861
George Kear city, Allegany, Maryland abt 1810
Maria Kear city, Allegany, Maryland abt 1818
Charlott Kear city, Allegany, Maryland abt 1843
George Kear city, Allegany, Maryland abt 1851
Louisa Kear city, Allegany, Maryland abt 1854
Isaac Kear city, Allegany, Maryland abt 1858

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

George and Maria KEAR Brockweir -> Maryland

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Tuesday, August 20, 2013, 19:37 (4107 days ago) @ slowhands

There are several family trees on Ancestry which seem to match the details and bear out emigration to Maryland in the mid 19thC. I can pass on more details if of interest.

George and Maria KEAR Brockweir -> Maryland

by Manda @, Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 06:43 (4107 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Thank you for the help and info, the Maria I have in my tree was born 1816 sister to my 3x great grandmother Ann Darby 1826 daughters of William and Hannah, I did pick up that they may have emigrated if you do have any info I would love to know what happened to them thanks for all your help.

George and Maria KEAR Brockweir -> Maryland

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 06:53 (4107 days ago) @ Manda

Thank you for the help and info, the Maria I have in my tree was born 1816 sister to my 3x great grandmother Ann Darby 1826 daughters of William and Hannah, I did pick up that they may have emigrated if you do have any info I would love to know what happened to them thanks for all your help.

You'll need to cross check with records,( as always with anyone else's research, including mine) however one Ancestry tree gives Maria's death as :-

1892 3 Jan Age: 74 Frostburg, Allegany, Maryland, United States

George's as:-

1894 25 Jun Age: 82 Frostburg, Allegany County, MD Buried: Frostburg Memorial Park, Frostbury, Allegany, Maryland
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=KEA&GSpartial=1&GSbyr...


and travel from Bristol to New York arriving
1849 27 Jun
Age: 37 New York, New York Age: 38 (?)


and a Phillip born circa 1845 - would like to see the sources census / passenger list to confirm this

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

George and Maria KEAR Brockweir -> Maryland

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 19:57 (4106 days ago) @ Manda

One of the better cited trees gives the children as:-

Hannah 1838-1920
Charlotte 1843-1910
Phillip 1845

All born in Gloucestershire.

George William 1850-1930
Susan 1852
Louisa 1854
Isaac 1858

All born in Maryland.

Another tree gives date of arrival in New York as 27/06/1849 (New York Passenger Lists cited).

Not necessarily done all their homework though since they also cite George senior as living in Cheltenham in 1851 (with a different mother). Just possible I suppose, but something of a commute!

You will be able to see the root of these possible trees without being a member of Ancestry - just type the name and date of birth into the Public Member Trees search facility on the home page. To get any further will require roubles.

The owners of the trees can (theoretically, at least) be contacted once a sub is in place. Otherwise I could pass on an email address to them if you wanted.

George and Maria KEAR Brockweir -> Maryland

by Manda @, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 07:22 (4106 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

I have also now found the incoming passenger list may be just the way I can see things but am unsure as to if the ancestry trees have the right George Kear as Phillip Kear appear on a 1851 cencus in Cheltenham when they had arrived 2 years previous, also looked really closely at the incoming passenger list if I'm not mistaken the children are all girls. I have found baptisms for who I think maybe the eldest 3 but the youngest La Howell I can't find or any info of her after they arrived in 1849

George and Jane KEAR Cheltenham

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 07:30 (4106 days ago) @ Manda

I have also now found the incoming passenger list may be just the way I can see things but am unsure as to if the ancestry trees have the right George Kear as Phillip Kear appear on a 1851 cencus in Cheltenham when they had arrived 2 years previous, also looked really closely at the incoming passenger list if I'm not mistaken the children are all girls. I have found baptisms for who I think maybe the eldest 3 but the youngest La Howell I can't find or any info of her after they arrived in 1849

Always treat other research with caution - there is no substitute for doing your own and where possible taking in multiple sources

The Cheltenham Philip is the son of George and Jane (Stone)

KEAR George
STONE Jane Eliza
Cheltenham Register Office
1840 1 99

1841
George Kear abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Jane Kear abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Henry Kear abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

KEAR Philip G
KEAR STONE
1846 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 16 434

1851
George Kear abt 1818 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Jane Kear abt 1820 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Henry Kear abt 1841 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Clara Kear abt 1845 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Phillip Kear abt 1847 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
George Kear abt 1851 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

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George and Maria KEAR Brockweir -> Maryland

by Manda @, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 07:31 (4106 days ago) @ Manda

Sorry I touched submit before I had finished, I am a member of Ancestry now so have been looking at the other trees, that's where I had seen the passenger list. Thanks so much for your help and leading me in the right direction. I would like your thoughts on the passenger list see what you think are they are girls?

George and Maria KEAR Brockweir -> Maryland

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Saturday, August 24, 2013, 13:39 (4103 days ago) @ Manda

Having looked at the passenger list there is not much doubt that (apart from G.Kear, of course) the other members of the family are marked as female. Bearing in mind the scribe's lettering and abbreviation habits I would have said the names might be:-

Ma = Maria ? (b 1821 by inference)
Hh = Hannah ? (b 1840)
My = Mary ? (b 1842)
Ce = Charlotte ? (b 1844)
La = Louisa ? (b 1849)

Question then would be is there a potential family originating in the Forest?

All I can offer is:-

Record 31454 Entry 908 for a Hannah
Record 31492 Entry 946 for a Mary
Record 115328 Entry 673 for a Charlotte

As for the 4th child? Born on the voyage?

I guess this is all a bit speculative but it might be possible.

Others from FOD in Frostburg

by rookancestrybest @, United Kingdom, Friday, August 23, 2013, 22:35 (4104 days ago) @ Manda

I have traced likely relatives of mine to Frostburg too.Eliza Vaughan/Vaugn born 1820 in Whitecroft, married William Bowen born 1816 Parkend, both died in 1896 in Frostburg. They had 14 children and emigrated to the USA at some point after they married and before they had their first child in 1841. They married in January 1840 (in both the C of E and R.C.) in Newland. One of their children married someone called Gunter, again likely to be from a Forest of Dean family. Eliza Vaughan is also likely to be related to people who married into the Kear family in the FoD.

Are these related to this family? If not was the community in Frostburg chiefly from the FoD? William is listed as a miner.

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