re Help with Forest of Dean Parish Record_ID: 1011091 (General)
Hello,
Regarding the following record I wonder if anyone could verify the original entry for the surname and forename of the bride?
Transcript Details
Record_ID: 1011091
Entry_Number:
Year: 1633
Month: Jun
Day: 29
Grooms_Surname: SHEPPARD
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence:
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: ERULE
Brides_Forenames: Porapes
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence:
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Best guess at Bride`s Forename
Register_Reference: P154/9 IN 1/1
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Gloucester St John the Baptist
Soundex_Groom: S163
Soundex_Bride: E640
I am conducting a study of the ERNLE (EARNLEY, ERNLEY, ERNELEY, EARNLY, etc.) family, and ERULE is one of the standard mistranscriptions. Indeed, an example of this came up when I did a pre-first-posting search of the FOD site for ERULE, and got it as the middle name of one of the distaff descendants of the family, The Rev. Kyrle Ernle Money, vicar, listed as the officiant in a Penn/Mabe marriage in 1820. BTW, for verification of my statement, it may be useful to know that the Money family, now Money-Kyrle, of Much Marcle, Herefordshire, is listed in many editions of Burke's Landed Gentry.)
Thank you,
Richard (rhbcz)
West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
re Help with Forest of Dean Parish Record_ID: 1011091
by Jefff 
, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 02:41 (4036 days ago) @ rhbcz
Hi Richard, welcome to the forum & website.
As you can see this particular PR must have been a difficult one to transcribe, as the note states.
To request a check of the transcription, I think it's normal/preferred to ask using the "Database Correction Request Form", found below the "Help - FAQ" heading, or from this link.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/help-faq/database-correction-request-form
Where and when possible/convenient one of the site's staff will check the transcription against the original PR for you.
PS What a coincidence you mention the Kyrle name; only yesterday I was reading a 1930s guidebook entry about John Kyrle "Man of Ross", and was thinking I don't recall seeing his name mentioned on the forum in the three years I've been involved !
http://www.visitforestofdean.co.uk/history_kyrle
For a great many years of driving thro the town before the bypass was built, and occasional visits, all I knew of John Kyrle was the pub in Ross:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6812867543_98e452eeb6_z.jpg
Clearly he was a good man for the town and it's people.
From this site's PRs:
Record_ID: 24187
Entry_Number: 390
Year: 1637
Month: Jun
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: KYRLE
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Walter
Mothers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Esq In the margin in much later hand note in red ink Popes Man of Ross
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/7
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Dymock
Soundex: K640
Record_ID: 227107
Entry_Number:
Year: 1724
Month: Nov
Day: 20
Surname: KYRLE
Forenames: John
Residence:
Age_at_death:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: [1] John Kyrle Esq _
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG39/2
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye
Soundex: K640
According to Wikipedia,
"John Kyrle was the son of Walter Kyrle, a barrister and MP. The family had lived at Ross for many generations. His grandfather, James Kyrle of Walford Court, had been high sheriff of the county and whose father, Walter, had spelled the surname CRULL which had been a common surname among the Anglo-French aristocracy that had dominated England since the time of the Norman invasion in 1066 and a name which gradually disappeared with the Anglo-French aristocracy's Angloisation. James Kyrle's wife, Ann, was the sister of Edmund Waller, the poet, and her maternal uncle was the English statesman John Hampden.
John Kyrle was educated at Balliol College, Oxford, and studied Law, but did not qualify and having succeeded to the family property looking over the market square at Ross he lived there."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kyrle